Not only could the state provide the same service, shared services do not have to be done a county wide basis. Fair Lawn for example could benefit from working with Paterson instead. The existence of the BCPD makes more common sense interlocal agreements more difficult.

Our Borough Manager is looking to leverage our size for example to provide services to smaller towns. Sure running an animal shelter is a bit different than evidence recovery, but why couldn't Fair Lawn get together with a bunch of towns. If FLPD needed help and called the FBI, would they say "no"?

GEE...THE COUNTY POLICE IS TRAINED IN EVIDENCE RECOVERY??...SURPRISE SURPRISE,,,SO IS THE SHERIFF DEPT BCI....(THAT'S BUREAU OF CRIMINAL IDENTIFICATION)..WHICH IS WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MOST OF THE CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATIONS FOR THE COUNTY...THIS PURCHASE NOW IS JUST ONE WAY DONOVAN WANTS TO TRY TO JUSTIFY HAVING A POLICE FORCE THAT SHOULD BE ELIMINATED..

The services Bergen County PD currently provide could be merged with the Sheriff Dept. But Donovon argument also touches the fact that the town municpals Police lacks skills to do anything complicated. Why are we paying them $150,000 a year to be glorified Security Guards who simply write tickets a great percentage of they day. I could see this type of salary for NYC Police who risk there lives every day. So it appears that Bergen County Police is necessary because Municpal towns lack advanced skills that would warrant the salary level they are receiving. In NYC if you lose your iPhone and have a tracking device the NYC police will track and recover it. If you go to NJ they would laugh at you as say it is a waste of time to try to get . Many of times I have seen that the Police here are lazy and just don't want to do anything. They are lazy can't even solve simple thefts much least bigger criminal investigation. I was told that if they do solve a crime it was because they received a tip because they do not have any skills or care to solve crimes. NJ Police are glorified security guards who patrol the town. How much does NYC pay Police to risk there lives and how much does NJ pay for Police to write tickets ?

that device is so simple to operate a caveman could do it.

With the legalization of Marijuana we would eliminate a lot of money wasted housing non-volient prisoners. We have to do something because legal perscription medicine is now the new get high and people are dying. I have never seen anyone die off of marijuana. A alcoholic is the worse thing you can become but it is legal. I believe in NJ a new law is being passed they if you can prove you have a drug habit , NJ will put you in a drug treatment because they realize that it is costing the state over $40,000 a year to keep one prisoner in jail. So many areas that we are wasting money.

Anonyamous: Our police are more than capable. It is my understanding that they undergo a lot of ongoing training and from the cases I have seen solved in Fair Lawn I don't think they are glorified security guards. What I do see is someone who has had negative interactions with law enforcement and that is probably from an arrest point of view.

We should eliminate the sheriffs dept..talk about waste !

What is the difference between a police officer and a sheriffs officer

By law every county must have a sheriffs department but not a county pd

Serving papers, like what warrants? police also serve papers such as warrants and temporary restraining orders. What does the Passaic County Sheriff's Department do? Everything like that plus patrol, writing tickets, making arrests. I can go on

Its just a title

What is a "real" cop?

Sheriff's officers and police officers go through the same academy class together and learn the same exact things

When was the last time a bergen county police officer responded to a full blown domestic violence call?

To Cutter07410 OMG!! You seem to be angry. Actually I did not get my iPhone stolen. I saw it on the news a Police in NYC tracked down a stolen iPhone. A theft that was a cousin to a Police Officer stole $3,000 worth of stolen merchandise and the Police Dept ran me around and would not take the report. I THINK THAT IS LAZY BECAUSE THAT IS THERE JOB. When a friend got her iPhone stolen there response was the same ran around - didn't want to take the report. OKAY YOU GAVE TWO EXAMPLE OF POLICE GET SHOT ON THE JOB. THAT IS NOT THE DAILY LIFE OF A POLICE OFFICER IN NJ. THAT IS SHOCK VALUE. NYC POLICE SALARIES ARE $58 K AND BELIEVE ME THERE RISK THEIR ON A DAILY BASIS, NOT THE SHOCK VALUE CASES THAT YOU MENTION. Don't become a Police Officer but don't get angry at me. I didn't tell them to become a Police Officer, I am just giving my opinion and my personal experience has been they are LAZY and glorified security guards who make $159,000 a year. Being murdered is part of terriority but that is a VERY RARE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS COMPARED TO NYC and the salaries they make.

Absolutely, I am a cry baby over $3,000 worth of merchandise that was stolen and I could a police report or pursue the thief , They didn't care and had the same attitude you have cutter07410 - are you a Police Officer . You want me to be sympathetic to Police Officer getting shot, I am very much so. But, you don't care that a thief gets to run loose because and steal from other people.

NJ is known for being a Police State, that is why NJ Police Officer make THREE TIMES THE SALARIES OF NYC Police Officer. I have a great deal of respect for NYC Police Officer. They do not get $150,000 to spend most of time sitting in the car and writting tickets, they are dealing with real crime - life threathen situations daily.

Same BASIC training and then a different job title and job function -- security corrections and paper boys. They don't do police work. They are not cops.

Anonyamous...don't you think that you're over-generalizing?saying ALL cops are lazy and no good because you had some bad experiences? You're just making yourself sound like an idiot. But, reading your earlier post explains all the sour grapes..it's the cops fault that you didn't pay your child support, and that you're a bad parent and had your kid taken away by DYFS, and lost your job and house...that sounds like a lot of effort for a bunch of lazy security guards lol

To Really "What is police work" = cashing checks from fat pensions

I guess why I keep comparing NYC to NJ because I realized all the injustices that I have experienced from a very organized corrupt NJ Police Department would not happened in NYC because THEY ARE TOO BUSY DEALING WITH LIFE THEATHEN CIRCUMSTANCE pursuing "REAL" criminals, they do not have the luxury to target parents and destroy there lives. Hmm NJ DYFS and the Corrupt Police are doing a great job according to you, so WHY ARE WE HAVING THIS DEBATE WITH A IDOT? Why is a Judge looking to disband the BC Police ? My personal hell dealing with NJ Police tells me the problem is way BIGGER THAN SIMPLY DISBANDING THE BC Police. We need to disband a "Police State" that has the power to operate like legal criminals and target AND DESTROY LIVES. cutter 07410 God Bless you that you have never been a target of organized stalkers - The NJ Police & DYFS. I would not wish this hell on anyone but I know in the name of GOD something has to be done to stop this.

Of course there are many GREAT & Wonderful NJ Police Officers in NJ but on the flip side being a "Police State" with so much power they can also operate in a horrible organized corrupt manner than destroyes people lives. Operating under the blue code and behaving like legal mafia is not what Police work is suppose to me about. Yet anytime you give a group that kind of power that is what happens, whether you are aware of it or in denial. cutter07410 your right my axe to grind is personal and I was hoping karma would be done here, but this is more than likely politics, the BC is probably going to merged somewhere else. I done here please do not respond to me anymore. I just have to wait on God to and let HIM deal with this. PEACE OUT

Cutter07410 Your absolutely right I went from $1.5 million dollar worth of assets with $200,000 mortgage, to being on welfare and Police and DYFS were finished with me. Not only did you footing the bill my welfare lifestyle, but you paid for court proceedings , pyschological evaluations. all at tax payers expense. Oh! and the biggest expense is my son who is now special education after being traumatized and sexual abuse in five different home foster in a one year period. Yes, you paid for the foster homes that abused him in and DYFS workers. And Thank God the DYFS worker said I was a good mother and he was returned with hell of lot of problems that YES, YOU AND SOCIETY HAVE YET TO PAY FOR. Not to mention the $800,000 home and the private school that he was attending where he was deemed advanced BEFORE THE POLICE AND DYFS became involved in our life. Apparent some people feed off and make a great living off the oppression of other people you we need to pay for more DYFS workers I BELIEVE THE EXPENSE IS NOW 1 BILLION DOLLARS FOR A FAILING AGENCY TO Nj TAX PAYERS AND THAT IS NOT INCLUDING THE CARE THAT THESE DAMAGE CHILDREN ARE GOING TO NEED IN THE LONG RUN. YOU DON'T KNOW MY STORY AND HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE ME I COULD SAY THE JEWS IN THE HOLOCUST DID SOMETHING TO DESERVE THAT TOO BUT THAT WOULD BE RIDICULOUS NO ONE DESERVES TO BE ABUSE. ESPECIALLY NOT INNOCENT CHILDREN.

Cutter07410 Even after all of this I attempted to rebuild my life and got a job as a Manager of a store on the Grand Opening the Police came and falsely accused me of stealing something at the Children Place completely humilated I quit. Of course I made the Police Officer come to my job and falsely accuse me. So guess what happen DYFS had to pay my back rent - IF YOU DON'T ALLOW SOMEONE TO EARN A HONEST LIVING YOU WILL HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, NOT MY CHOICE BELIEVE ME I LOVE THE FINEST THINGS IN LIFE ,BUT THE DOMINANT CULTURE, POLICE STATE, OR WHAEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM THE EVIL SECURITY GUARDS THAT YOU LAUGH ABOUT MAKES THAT CHOICE TO ENSURE CERTAIN PEOPLE WILL BE OPPRESSED - BUT YOUR PAYING FOR OPPRESSION LOL !!!!

Bill Mays that is my point exactly. Why are NYC Police respectful down to earth people who uphold the law. Yet, NJ Officer have attitude and make triple the amount of money to for the most part very little. I realize my circumstance are unique and most can not relate or understand my plight. But, When you analyze psychologiy of group we all know groups can go evil if they are not force back to a human level. I do not think my story could of even happened in NYC, but it happened in a corrupt ORGANIZED environment where Officers have a air and attitude that they are so powerful that can destroy you and your child and make you suffer to prove they are powerful and worthy of respect. Where I come from you don't mess with somebody money and there child. With my job I was hoping to move out of NJ. Welfare makes me angry and I realize after being falsely accused I am wasting my time looking for a job in NJ they do not want to see me have anything. I am tried of complianing I just want to move out of NJ but without a job and being on welfare, the only way out is shelter which is a long way from the lifestyle I lived.

Yes, Billy Mays, because you certainly seem fit to determine any one else's sanity. (sarcasm)

Just another generation of people who don't want to be held accountable for their actions. You blame the people you turn to in your time of need. Damn shame, but I'm not here to fight, because there's no rationalizing with crazy.

Writing with all capitals usually means you are angry or hiding something. Maybe both, gnobie should "come out" and he wouldn't be such a miserable person. There are many therapists that are trained in anger management, gender identity disorder, and work related stressors. (too many donations)

GNUBER wrote "LOT OF FRIGHTENED LITTLE BERGEN COUNTY COPS GONNA BE SHERIFF OFFICERS REAL SOON...."

So, you admit that the REAL COPS are the COUNTY COPS. Deal with it. Are you a paper boy, 15% hack or security guard or cage kicker?

Move corrections to the dept of public safety and lower their salary (they are the highest paid COs in the state), privatize the paper boys, fire all the 15% hacks and let the security guards stay in the courthouse waving their metal detectors. Save the taxpayers money and grief!!

You are Right cutter07410 some examples of Organized stalking a BC saw me at the DMV in Lodi it was crowded and the BC Officer who was also a frequent courthouse Officer saw me and came up to me and said my license was suspended and I could not drive home. I ended having to take a cab home luckily I have $50.00 on me because it was almost 3'O time to pick up my kid in the afterschool program. After I get my child in time call the DMV and they said my license was not suspended !! Coming to my job and falsely accusing me of stealing, at my job. Examples of the Organized Stalking . Sure I made the police do all of this and damn right I am angry. Too much preoccupation with watching me and destroying my life. They would not even take a police report because for $3,000 worth of merchandise much least pursue the thief because he was a cousin of a officer. cutter 07410 you sound like a Police Officer ?

Me and my son go to therapy all at the taxpayer expense. Thank you !!

Psychological Exams are given because it is a well known fact that many criminal minded people are attractived to becoming a Police Officer. The test is suppose to weed out the criminal minded ones so you don't have Police behaving like legal criminals. You all would be GREAT NJ Police Officers, banging together - blue code, psuedo therapist and ganging up and attacking and destroying anything that threathens your way of thinking. But the blog is about disband BC Police, do you have any intelligence argument concerning THAT ISSUE ? it doesn't take alot of intelligence to be a bully and hurl insults but it takes intelligence to be able OBJECTIVELY stick to the subject and focus on the topic apparently you have NOTHING WORTH WHILE TO SAY PERTAINING TO THE BC POLICE DISBANDING ? LIKE A BULLY OR CHILD WHO HITS YOU TO WIN BECAUSE HE LACKS THE INTELLIGENT TO SAY ANYTHING WORTHWHILE DISTRACTS FROM THE REAL ISSUE THAT HE IS INADQUATE AS A PERSON. Stop wasting your time attacking me and deal with the subject BC Police share your experiences, do you have any- probably not cutter 07410 because nobody cares if you existence but don't use me as a distraction. I am not impressed by coward bullies that hide on the internet Go join the Police Force.

I think they should merged with the Sheriff's Dept. Makes sense economically and no one loses any services if they just happen to wear different uniforms. There, that's my opinion. I don't have that many experiences with any police, because I pay my bills, take care of my kids and follow the law. In fact, I've somehow managed to get through 40 years without being arrested or getting more than a headlight out or parking tickets. Now I'm an internet bully? You get to "yell and scream" on here and say horrible things about police officers but I can't say what's on my mind about you? Sorry, I didn't realize the rules lol I understand that things happen that are beyond our control, but it seems a little hard to believe ALL of this is just some "conspiracy" against you..I know it must be hard to look at your life and accept that you screwed it up and it's easier to make someone else responsible for everything bad in your life. The human ego is a pretty powerful thing...

And I think it's hilarious that you complain we're not "objectively sticking to the subject". You think they should be disbanded because the police have destroyed your life. That's not what I would call objective...maybe you should go look up the word. Go ahead, I'll wait....

Billy..."the cops?". Which cop? Or are you lumping all of them together because of one or even a bunch of cops you've dealt with? You're prob one of those people that think all african americans are criminals or all Jewish people are cheap..am I forgetting any other stereotypes you beleive in Billy?

Just use common sense..I'm not a cop, but it's pretty easy to see why people don't like them. They tell you what to do, and our country is all about "freedom". "I can do whatever I want" is our society's motto and when someone says no, we turn into the toddler throwing our tantrum because we're not getting our way. I would not want a cop's job in today's society. Risking your life for people that want to spit in your face for doing it..disgusting what our society has turned into.

Hw did you guys sleep last night? Were you up worrying that people would break into your house?..bet you slept pretty well knowing help was only a 911 call away..

Yeah Billy, because you know for an absolute fact that ALL police officers sit around all day and just pull people over. That's what I'm talking about, over simplifying and generalizing based on no real knowledge..that's what makes your argument sound ridiculous..do you even see that? Or are you just too stubborn to admit that I'm right about that point?

Again, ALL cops are not polite...I guess I'm the crazy one. Trying to use logic and common sense here against all this arrogance. "I was treated badly by a couple cops..they're all bad!" "My experiences are all that count" I guess people that have had good experiences don't matter and are wrong. It's almost sad and pathetic that your thought process is like that

An inflated sense of self is really a sign of an insecure ego, you are a bully cutter 07410 now your moved on to bullying Mr. Mays because he doesn't share your views. We all have a right to disagree but you don't have a right to hurl personal attacks against someone because you don't like what they are saying. Everyone makes mistakes and if God forgave me no one has the right to haunt, harass and stalk me . Those tactics constitute destroying someone life. One thing about bullies they always rationalize that you someone deserve to be unfairly treated and never will be accountable for there actions.

Whether it is internet bullies, Police Bullies or Fmr Pres. "Bully" Bush didn't we a great lesson from the consequences being vindictive and arrogrant . Thousand young soliders died, our economy fell and 9/11 which he was warned numerous times but failed to take actions. destroyed many lives. Please don't try to blame Obama he was a Professor when this was happening. Great you have wonderful experiences with the NJ Police but because I have not you personal attack me ? But your not a bully? The BC Police that you love and adore is going to merged in Sheriff Dept so why are still going on attacking people and calling them names because they don't have this love affair with the NJ Police Dept.

My brother was a Navy Capt. and fought in iraq. I remember when he first went enlisted in Navy. He was a artisy- college graduate type, played jazz in the village and acted in off broadway .. The first thing I said aren't are scared to go to war. He said we are the US states the most richest and powerful country in world, we will NEVER have a war. A far cry from what we use to be. Bush was indeed a dumbass but his lack diplomatic skills, tactics and hindsight is the reason we are no longer the most richest and powerful country in the world.

It's funny, this started out as an underwater camera article lol

Clearly, if you had horrible experiences with a group it would make it hard to be objective. Which is why I went out on a limb and shared my experiences with them. Inspite of my horrible experiences with a very ORGANIZED corrupt group I still see the good in them. I have admitted in this blog that there are WONDERFUL NJ Police Officers, people that you can't help but like. Really it is not about my story or your experience. The point is how do you justified paying NJ 3X the salaries of NY Finest. When NYC is known for higher salaries. Then when you compare the demeanor and the level of risk of NY finest compared to NJ Police Officer there salaries don't make logical sense to me. I admit I am prejudice because in my short time I lived in NYC & visiting the city. My experience with NYC Finest is that THEY HAVE ALWAYS TREATED ME WITH RESPECT - Why they earned the name FINEST. Compared to NJ who seemed to have a great deal of FREE time on their hands to stalk and harass you with fabricated petty issues to justified their bullying.

ill admit it im jealous of bergen police officers and bergen county sheriffs. if i could hit the restart button on life i would definetly tried to become a bergen county policeman or kiss up to the sheriff so he can give me a cushy job.
i spent all my money going to college and earning a degree in mechanical engineering. i have a steady job, work 50 hours a week with no overtime pay making around 50k a year. i compare myself to people i graduated with two are local town cops (whose fathers happen to work in the same department) and one who had no qualifications except being friends with the sheriff. one of the local cops makes 90k, very few people can make 90k in the private sector after only working 5 years. these people i graduated with will all be making 100k have great pension plans and be able to retire at a fairly young age. so yes i admit i am jealous of how good most of the public sector has it, and it bothers me that most of them seem to take it for granted and want more.

http://www.nypdrecruit.com/benefits-salary/overview NYC Police Make over 100k in 5.5 years.... get your facts straight.... Lifetime benefits....sick, and vacation time and retire in 20 years... If you think its so great try it "Jealous" also expected life span of a police officer is 66..... This is because while you sleep, cops work....when you party on holidays,,,, Cops work... So don't compare the job to a "normal' 9-5 business job... I have family members who are police officers and I appreciate what they do.... If you like the pay and think its so easy take the test!! NYC gives it every day... I attached the web site! go for it big mouth!

I thought the Judge was attempting to disband th BC Police to resolve a wastage issue. One good thing about the war the wealthy became richer with a greater widening of the classes - the poor are now poorer. The Republican are fighting to Not have taxes raise on the most wealthy. Bergen County Property taxes are one of the highest in the country and I don't think we can afford to increase them. NJ Police quota writting tickets , DMV revenue -Insurance surcharges, etc. does appear to be enough to earn revenue for the state in this economy. Something is going to have to give .Have no fear 07410 cutter In a "Police State "I don't think it will be the NJ Police salaries, they rather cut the school system and teachers than touch NJ Police.

Anonymous - just an FYI... The school budget in Fair Lawn is aprox 86 MILLION DOLLARS. The police budget is 7.5 mil... So SCHOOL BUDGETS ARE GINORMOUS!! HUGE!! BIG!! so it might be easier to cut a HUGE piece of cake off a GIGANTIC cake. A smaller cake is harder to cut... IF you totally eliminated the Police in Fair Lawn your taxes might go down like 400 bucks - per household.. You cant compare .........

Yes, I was not aware of the numbers your right when it comes to the school system. Pay the NJ Police 200K, if our budget could support that. But if your going to make a certain level of income and your job is to uphold the law, you need to have a certain level of standards and intergity, I am sorry I do not see this happening in NJ. I am far from being jealous I had a very beautiful house and lifestyle and 1 million dollars worth of assets until the Police became apart of my life. Actually I think they were jealous of me because I had it all ! Why in the world would I be jealous of them ?, rolex, mercedes benz, child in private school, the best of everything, now I am on welfare and have nothing. So let's not talk about jealousy

Cutter 0710 FYI I just read article The secret of their success? How US leaders from JFK to Roosevelt and George Bush share Psychopathic traits. I have always known this I watch overachievers like my mother and brother and that same drive that makes them successful can also be a double sword .Like the saying goes everyone is crazy but you. However, in war it is import to understand the psychology of your opponent. Through our own arrogrance we fail to understand that there will be consciences to our actions. Kill Bin Laden, Bomb and kill their people, cause financial suffering and then while you at it why don't you desacrate their religion, yet we are shock when they retaliate against us. We owe how much to China because of our falllen economy and the cost of wars. Muslims are radical about there religions, they believe in being a martyer and dying for a cause. Why keep poking the tiger in the eye and when they react you call them crazy. Only a crazy person would keep antagonizing a tiger and not expect them to strike back. U.S may still be powerful but we are no longer the richest country in world.