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Teaneck Outlet Store Closing

Shopping plaza losing tenant after less than a year.

 

The Pace Outlet store in Teaneck Road's T-State shopping plaza is closing after less than a year in town. 

Pace opened last summer, offering discount items including housewares and luggage. Signs posted at the store Tuesday announced the closure and offered sale items. 

Store representatives were not immediately available to comment. 

Pace replaced Blockbuster after the video rental chain announced it was closing many of its stores and declared bankruptcy. 

The approximately 6,000 square foot space is now available. 

 

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Related Topics: Pace Outlets and Teaneck businesses

Art Vatsky

5:45 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013

I sense a message here: Teaneck is becoming toxic for business. How many businesses have moved into Teaneck? How many have moved out? How do those numbers compare to the adjacent towns like Hackensack, Bogota, New Milford, Bergenfield, Englewood? If our numbers are worse than our neighbors we have to ask why? Are our fees higher? Are our resident poorer? Is our township government responsive or resistive, argeeable or arrogant? Can it be reached 5 days a week? No need to guess. All this information is available between municipalities. Our Manager or the Council can be proactive and find out. Real estate agents probably know too. Maybe the Council knows already? I don't think that Teaneck has enough business activity. If we can't keep our existing commerical property occupied as the rest of the nation goes thru a recovery, we better find out why - and fast.
Council, Manager: Is Teaneck sending the wrong message to business? What do we need to improve? Don't wait. Find out fast and make the changes indicated. Empty stores mean lower tax revenues and lower property values - and it is happening on your watch. It just seems odd so many businesses are leaving and it worries me.

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sharon

12:41 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

I totally agree with you, if this keeps up we will be a ghost town of no Stores!

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John Santaella

12:49 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Art, there are stores closing everywhere. Most business fail within the first 5 years of opening. Teaneck is not immune from this phenomenon.

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Michael J. Klatsky

10:07 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

I think it is time to establish an Economic Development Corporation to provide businesses with an interface to deal with the red tape and the available assistance the government has/can provide.

sean Gee

6:59 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013

Well said! I too struggle with these same questions... Un-frickin believable!

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TeaneckUSEDtoBeGood

9:52 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013

Pose the question to Elie Katz. He will happily refer you to someone else.

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Michael J. Klatsky

10:07 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

I think a consensus needs to be made between the council and the businesses and only then can the township proceed with mechanisms to help, such as the establishment of a special improvement district (extra tax for affected properties)& establishing an economic development corp.

Tee Smyth

12:37 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Not for nothing, that store was disappointing. And with a dollar store in close proximity, it really served no purpose bc many of the items overlapped with the dollar store winning the battle. It wasn't the right fit.

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Michael J. Klatsky

10:07 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

I agree, It was a small store selling low-quality chinese junk.

Nothing of value that couldn't be had on Amazon for a lower price.

shimon baum

9:21 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

The closing of this store should be the least surprising news in Teaneck.

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Dee Are

9:43 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

You know what would be good there? A Walgreens.

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John Santaella

12:50 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Don't quit your day job to go into standup comedy. ;)

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Revolution

11:51 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

there already is a walgreens in that plaza

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Tee Smyth

1:16 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Turn about is fair play: A CVS would be better.

Art Vatsky

9:47 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

It seems the ratio of businesses leaving to businesses coming to Teaneck is currently about 5 to 1. Maybe Teaneck will return to being a farming community? (Oh, am I going to pay for my satire!) If only Teaneck had a major college campus, a major hospital, was located at the intersection of two major interstate highways, had a diverse, well-educated multi-ethnic population and was only 5 miles from Manhattan, I am sure we would be doing much better. Oh, what's that? We have all those features! OK, then it must be something else. Could it be our municipal leadership? Poor decisions, antiquated planning policies, municipal service hours not optimized for newcomers? What do others think it is?
As far as contacting Elie, I will. He is free, like other Council members, to respond in the Patch. He doesn't. Aside from submitting a press release or two, our Council members don't voice their opinions in public, for the record. Some don't even do it at Council meetings. They are content to keep us guessing. Maybe that is part of the problem too?

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Esther

10:04 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

The heck with the Council, Art. You seem to have a pretty vivid imagination. Imagine if Teaneck did NO have a major college campus and did NOT have a major hospital. Imagine if all that property was tax generating property for the town. Just imagine.

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Michael J. Klatsky

10:07 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

That Hospital and College Campus are tax liabilities for the town, and likely the reason property tax is very high.

Some will argue that the two increase property values somewhat - which is questionable.

Let say, if we move to a realm of fantasyland - where home values are based upon having a hospital and college in town, the assessed value would not reflect the actually increased value.

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Michael J. Klatsky

10:07 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

Art,

I honestly feel that the council could not have saved this store, no matter what the circumstance.

The store is less than 1000 feet from where I live - I have passed it many times (and have gone inside only once.) The store sold nothing of value, only cheap chinese junk that no-one had any use for, even the so-called poor people living in the apartments nearby.

Yes, the other stores are well-patronized since the Walgreen's is essentially the local Pharmacy and draws many walking patrons and bus riders (it is the 167T's main pickup stop). I think a commuter-oriented business would do well.

The problems you identify are related to other issues (I think)

1 - Lack of a defined community vision (No clear downtown goals or vision of what we think a great business district <i>should<i> look like)

2 - The primary focus so far has been accommodating thru-traffic: instead of making Cedar Lane a community-focused street, it is the primary thoroughfare for drivers headed to Hackensack. Likewise for the high-speed Teaneck Road - (when I want to get the Turnpike quickly, it is clearly the best choice.)

3 - Lack of an organization that can guide businesses through confusing regulations and show them ways the township can help.

Diane Schwarz

11:20 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Could it have something to do with the armed robbery in the same mall?

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John Santaella

12:53 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

No Diane, the store was closing before the robbery took place.

zizi

11:50 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Teaneck is indeed business unfriendly.... we do not allow or welcome successful businesses in the town and than complain when some fringe business shuts down. The time for mama papa stores have come and gone.... it is time to allow well established big box stores to come in the town and that means we should be flexible and rezone areas to comply with the needs of these businesses....

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John Santaella

12:53 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

zizi, businesses are not successful when they open. They strive to succeed and most startups fail within the first 5 years.

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Michael J. Klatsky

10:07 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

Why would they move here and not Paramus? - an existing large big-box district with a regional draw of hundreds of thousands.

Hackensack tried to alter the community fabric and accomodate big-box shopping and is now left with empty roads with fast cars, vacant parking lots and buildings in disrepair.

We should team up with Bergenfield, Englewood and Ridgefield Park and plan for a future that builds upon the traditional commercial streets of all those towns

zizi

11:56 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

The town offices are open only 4 days a week..... that alone should tell everyone that we are not ready for the demands of era we live in.

I visited the town offices a few days ago and was shocked at the level of service I received. The workers left me standing there while they continued discussing their weekend plans on the phone. There was no bell at the front desk (the building permit department is an exception) and one has to just wait while the workers finish their 20 minute discussion. Other workers were busy doing their nails and talking to other workers while you just stay there looking at them. No smiles... no hellos.... nothing....

These people actually get paid by us and they should know how to service us while they are there 4 days a week.....

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Michael J. Klatsky

10:07 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

Online self service would go a very long way in making the Township more user friendly to citizens.
(I mean to ability to actually conduct transactions online and obtain township-held information.)

John Santaella

12:53 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

@Esther, why stop with the hospital and the college. How about all the houses of worship?

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Michael J. Klatsky

10:07 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

And they contribute little to the community. They are regional entities that serve a regional customer base. Houses of worship are purely local.

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John Santaella

12:03 pm on Sunday, March 17, 2013

@Klatsky: The hospital and college may be large entities but take the houses of worship as a whole and they may be a lot of little fish that consume more than the large fish.

Tee Smyth

1:20 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

I'm not a fan of many of the council's members. But, for those of you who look to the council for "blame," how many of you actually patronized that store?

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Michael J. Klatsky

10:07 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

I hated that store, but purchased three pairs of gym shorts from them. The seams started coming loose where the two short legs meet and it led to an embarrassing situation at a friends apartment.

ed

6:39 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

i bet a starbuck will run just fine...

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Michael J. Klatsky

10:07 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

A commuter oriented store like starbucks will go very far if they are kosher.

Art Vatsky

1:38 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Again, some interesting comments above. I don't want to believe that Zizi's comments are accurate. Does anyone else have a similar story?
Esther's comment about the non-taxable property is sometimes offset by the increased value of surrounding property. You know, living close to a desired house of worship, place of employment and such.
Regarding John's first comment about business activity elsewhere is a common opinion. I am asking our municipal government to go beyond opinion and get facts. If Teaneck is doing worse than our neighbor towns, we should know why.

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AL

2:06 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

yes- same experience as ZiZi- totally ignored while they carried on their conversations- until I finally asked if someone could help me, and then was told they couldn't help me with anything and referred me to an office in Hackensack. Have also found phone help the same, also found Dept. of Public Works the same- have been a resident of Teaneck since 1962. nCedar Lane is unappealing- whoever wrote about big box stores is correct- look at Englewood & Ridgewood- both main "drags" are always busy and a pleasure to go to

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Michael J. Klatsky

10:07 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

There is no big-box shopping anywhere in Englewood.

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Michael J. Klatsky

10:07 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

Englewood and Ridgewood have used the special improvement disrict mechanism to manage the downtown and have established Economic Development Corporations to incubate commerce and provide an interface between businesses and government.

See incubation in Englewood: http://greaterenglewoodcdc.org/about-us-2/frequently-asked-questions/
See interfacing with developers in Englewood: http://www.njfuture.org/smart-growth-101/stories/2002-award/group-usa/ (Shoprite development)
See ongoing cultivation and management of Englewood's Downtown: http://www.englewoodstyle.com/about/index.html

John Santaella

1:46 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

I've never had to wait except for the person in front of me to finish and the clerks respond right away.

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John Santaella

12:38 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013

@Revolution: I think Dee Are was being facetious. At least I hope so.

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Jim Dunleavy

12:28 pm on Saturday, March 16, 2013

I believe I posted on previous topics related to businesses in town that we appear to not be able to get out of our own way. I think we need outside, fresh, unbiased eyes to take a look at our commercial base and see what can be done. What are the aspects of the business climate here that makes it so difficult to start or bring a business here? Is it different in other towns? If so, why? We certainly meet the "location, location, location" rule so why do so many drive thru or by without stopping? business type? Business size? lack of town marketing campaign for its own businesses? A strong partnership between the business community and the town government seems to be lacking, or at least not working very well.

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Michael J. Klatsky

10:07 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

I think the council should quickly move to create a Economic Development Corp., and solicit Rutgers /NJ Future for technical assistance.

A special improvement district is the legal mechanism Englewood uses to manage the downtown.

Art Vatsky

9:00 pm on Monday, March 18, 2013

Sorry to burst your bubbles but what we have now IS the result of a Special Improvement District. It was called the CLSID and it came and went. We also had the TEDC - the Teaneck Economic Development Corporation. Then there was a study in 2006 that said both the CLSID and TEDC were screwed up, that the impression among residents was that prior efforts were ineffective. And who paid for all this wasted effort? We did!! And where are some of the participants in this brouhaha? Why on the current Council, of course!! Two of them are. And why did things go so poorly? Maybe because they were considering giving swimming lessons in our new Police Station and the Council was dealing with millions in law suits because members of our town staff apparently behaved improperly. Very improperly. The high dollar judgments were a signal to change our leadership, I think. Instead, we "doubled-down".

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Jim Dunleavy

9:38 pm on Monday, March 18, 2013

So Art, in terms of a tool that the town can use regardless of leadership whats there? If no tool available then it doesn't matter who is elected. I want to hear about solutions and not political rhetoric. Anyone have any ideas?

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zizi

11:58 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013

Jim: What about merging the Teaneck township with Englewood. This will solve many problems......

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Michael J. Klatsky

12:51 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

While in reality the two have similar needs and demographics, the two municipalities have very different corporate cultures that would most certainly clash in a merger.

Either all of the Teaneck politicians, managers and upper level staff would be laid off, or all of Englewood's.

I just cannot see them working together at the present time, and can see staff members ignoring merger mandates and undermining the process.

I think that small steps should be taken, like implementing a shared DPW garage on the Teaneck/Englewood border, or combined 911 dispatching and other small ways to promote the idea of sharing ideas and working together.

zizi

9:48 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

@Michael J. Klatsky:

I think Teaneck is a failed town so all the staff from Teaneck should be laid off and that should be a good incentive for Englewood to accept us with the baggage we carry.

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Michael J. Klatsky

8:34 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Zizi, while a legal mechanism currently exists for residents to draft a referendum to dissolve a municipal authority, there is no current mechanism to dissolve a municipality - to be then absorbed by the original entities (in Teaneck's case Englewood Township [defunct] and Ridgefield Township [also defunct])

New York state passes a law allowing dissolution but voters keep voting dissolution down because of their municipal pride.

see:
Johnson City, NY Dissolution Study: http://www.cgr.org/johnsoncity/

A mechanism does exist for municipal consolidation, but so far only Princeton Town and Princeton Borough have elected to use it.

That is a huge uphill battle, since every employee in Teaneck has a vested financial interest in keeping the status quo (I don't blame them - they have families to support and I wouldn't want a pay cut/pink slip either).

To get a glimpse of the sort of opposition ahead:

http://www.northjersey.com/news/189330091_Consolidation_talk_worries_Teaneck_police_dispatchers.html

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