It's sad, because the economy was in absolutely fantastic shape when Obama came into office. We weren't involved in any wars with funding made via emergency appropriations to keep them out of the budget, gasoline prices had never been above two dollars a gallon, and the financial industry was in fine condition.

I have a little informal poll going on on my YouTube page. It has two skits of a feuding Romney and Obama. According to that, Obama is winning 69,644 to Romney's 74. It is mostly a New Jersey audience though. So it could be skewed. See them at:
http://youtu.be/2NqimnpTtxw
http://youtu.be/P1SioiOjZoc

You are so right.I enjoy going to the gas station and paying close to 4 dollars for a gallon of gas. The oil companies are raking in millions.The college and high school grads cannt find a job.Housing going up again.rents at all time highs.This man has been in office 4 years and what good has he done.Now after for years of complete failure,he wants 4 more.Lets pray rommey wins.

JD you're good. I had to reread your comments a few times before I was sure you were joking.

Pete, thank you for taking my comments as they are meant to be taken.

To be perfectly honest, I'm not particularly happy with either candidate, but the arguments that people are willing to make in public get my ire up enough to activate my Sarcasm-o-matic 3000.

JD - I'm a banker. It's what I do. We had just run off the cliff in September of 2007 when Ben B jumped the wrong way at the penalty shot (adjusting rates downward to keep the heat on in the real estate market) - the history of this is tracked in the failures of the banks listed on ml-implode.com (I was and am one of the moderators on the "market insider" portion of that web-site, where information is shared by mortgage professionals to insure we're at our most competitive, and further to insure that, when we place a loan with an investor, it will close, and in a timely manner). The crash began then, but it takes many months for it to reach the rest of the economy, as the numbers the public sees are already "baked in the cake". BB's "blink" inspired a loss in faith in our markets, and created a self-fulfilling prophecy. We weren't living with the trend, or even riding it....We WERE the trend. It's certainly easy to identify what went wrong today - but only a very few of us were expressing our disbelief at that now evidently bone-headed move. That was when I was first asked by my peers from all over the Nation to enter politics. What Aaron and others have endured for being outspoken in that industry is only a small taste of what detractors of an administration suffer elsewhere in the world, but it all but broke many of us.

Don't misunderstand me - "running into the burning building with a gas can" by the next administration didn't help matters.

Had Bernanke and pals instead done what we had suggested for months, IN WRITING - raised rates slightly - tightened our belts, and supported a market at 6-8% (at that time) - BECAUSE, if you were to chart when our growth was best, those were the numbers, and for the simplest of reasons....folks could garner enough of a return to leave their money in the market, to save, rather than to spend, capitalizing on good returns.

Removing the mortgage interest deduction would be slashing the throat of the real estate market, already crippled by the so-called 'market correction' - (read "mark to market") in real estate values.

I was at a TWP meeting in the district, and later messaged the mayor - "JFK said that a rising tide lifts all ships - it appears a receding market strands all townships". Folks are appealing their taxes, and they should...but, understand, the townships have obligations to meet, and budgets to honor...a drop in incoming tax dollars from appeals by a few will eventually result in a slow, steady rise in the mil rate - as it must, to accomodate the new shortfall.

Best would be a true and FULL re-evaluation - but the problem with that is finding a true disinterested party to complete such an evaluation - these sorts of projects are typically rife with graft. That "miss" in 2007 is going to continue to cost us for some time to come.

Agreed... With all the rhetoric...I thought I would post his words...

"I believe Governor Romney is a good man. Loves his family, cares about his faith. But I also believe that when he said behind closed doors that 47 percent of the country considered themselves victims who refuse personal responsibility, think about who he was talking about.

Folks on Social Security who've worked all their lives. Veterans who've sacrificed for this country. Students who are out there trying to hopefully advance their own dreams, but also this country's dreams. Soldiers who are overseas fighting for us right now. People who are working hard every day, paying payroll tax, gas taxes, but don't make enough income.

And I want to fight for them. That's what I've been doing for the last four years. Because if they succeed, I believe the country succeeds.

When my grandfather fought in World War II and he came back and he got a G.I. Bill and that allowed him to go to college, that wasn't a handout. That was something that advanced the entire country. And I want to make sure that the next generation has those same opportunities. That's why I'm asking for your vote and that's why I'm asking for another four years."

I hope your right Don. We absolutely cannot afford 4 more years of Obama. His stimulus was a disaster, riddled with failing green energy companies, and no shovel ready projects. We spent $246,436 per job it created and many of those are already gone. His answer to the still failing economy is to do it again! Why? Maybe he is getting kickbacks. He tells such tall tales it would be within his character. We in NJ know Corzine is nothing more than a thief, a thief who is a bundler for Obama and faced no charges after stealing billions in the MF Global case and Eric Holder is not prosecuting him? The Obama Administration has been a sham on every issue.

Socialist policies...... as in Social Security.... Yahhh.. my grandma is scary...

Yes - 8 years of your sainted Republican president Bush left everything in tip-top shape, didn't it?? Short memory you people have.
How can you possibly expect ANYONE to undo the mess W left in a short period of time? May we all be protected if Romney wins - he is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Kiss your social security goodbye, kiss women's rights goodbye, and be ready to fill the coffers of the very rich.

Mittney was prepared with half-truths and lies. His blame of the last four years should be squarely on the shoulders of the Republicnecks that got us in this mess in the first place. You simply cannot trust anything that the Mittney/Ryan ticket say about their "Plan" for America. Kiss all your tax deductions goodbye. America's Middle Class cannot afford the failed policies of Bush/Mittney Republicnecks.

Mittney? Mitt the NitWit is my personal favorite.

Far Left MSNBC independents say Romney rocked....maybe they got it right. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/10/17/msnbc-post-debate-focus-group-leans-towards-romney

Is the truth you refer to the $16 trillion debt exploding to $25 trillion? The fact the Medicare is UNPAID for to the tune of $500 Billion a year and growing. The fact that 25 million people are unemployed. Are these the truths you are rooting for? You probably can't stand NJ property taxes too.

Marc
It's clear? What were you watching? Haters? Who hates? So you're calling Romney a robot? I'll take a job creator Robot any day over a Hollywood hipster President who has never created a job in his life.

Obama is a legend in his own mind.

Did you see all the crazy lefties on Twitter threatening to assassinate Romney.....what a bunch of left wing nut sacks!

The new America. If someone doesn't get their free stuff. Kill the MAN!!! It's no wonder our cities like Detroit, Chicago, Newark and Camden are such war zones.

http://www.infowars.com/threats-to-assassinate-romney-explode-after-debate/

Haters in denial? I think Obama supporters are in denial and blindsided and are unable to accept the truth on what is going on around you. Keep your eyes check and educate yourself first.

If high unemployment, gas prices and food prices is your cup of tea vote Obama. If your intelligent vote for ABO (anyone but Obama).

sure. let's keep doing what we are doing so we can keep getting what we are getting. Can anybody list just 2 things Obama did before being elected? He got in because of a brilliant marketing campaign which is why he held the title for best ad campaign in Advertising Media Magazine. Other than that, he has left us in shambles.

George - The "truth" is Obama's failing agenda of the last four years. He decided to show up at Debate #2. Good for him. Without the help of Candy Crawley and her inaccurate take on our President's Rose Garden statement, he would have turned in a slightly less than modest performance. In all honesty, the debate will not make or break this election. This president's "leadership" over a failing economy, skyrocketing debt, unemployment, 100% gas price increase and floundering foreign policy will.

Greg when you have no record to run on, radicalism tells you to attack your opponent and deflect. Personalize it. People who don't follow issues and facts grab on to personal stuff because its easy. It's straight out of a book called Rules for Radicals.

Why on earth would Obama want to discuss why 47 million are on food stamps and the debt has doubled? They are failures of his. Better to attack

Birther... Yawn....

That's because except for the title, he has not been President the past 4 years. No skills. No qualifications. No success. What else would we expect from a man who worked as a community organizer in Chicago. Chicago isn't exactly an economic model anyone would want to emulate.

"Romney is a turn around expert for failing business"

Sort of close... He buys companies... sells off their assets, and then "turns around" and sells them...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-gaulrapp/sensata-bain-capital_b_1972021.html

http://www.journalstandard.com/news/x2102586729/Sensata-workers-protest-layoffs

Sooo. kinda close..... Yahhh not really... no....

Earl-'oh bummer' is not interested in facts about Bain Capital. Hey even the former supply sider himself; David Stockman is gunning for Mitt and his Bain capitalist co co conspirators...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/14/david-stockman-mitt-romney-and-the-bain-drain.html

Romney is a venture capitalist - a Gordon Gekko with sister wives. He is not a business man. He is a vulture who manipulates corporate entities to bankruptcies. Witness KB Toys. People who don't study the reality of the candidates scare me.

Here is a fact check on Romney...

Enjoy!!

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/statements/byruling/false/

Mr. Gray,

You call that a fact check? You need your head checked.

Joel - What is the president's plan should he be re-elected? In all fairness, it would be nice if the same requirement for details you (and the mainstream press) are demanding of Gov. Romney was also demanded of the sitting POTUS.

I wonder if Romney would have done better debating himself?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPgfzknYd20

Yeeks... I guess not

Maybe Romney will win the SECOND debate against himself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bZfXvFAeHVo#t=0s

Ooops... guess not...

Earl
Great post. Nothing but the truth from his own mouth

Earl
This is a great post.
Nothing but truth from the horses mouth.

Obama is a socialist and muslim. Not ingnorance or mendacity....do you have a word of the day calendar on your desk......it's just true. We could respect him more if he would just admit it.

You can't have it both ways- either he's a disciple of the racist Reverend Wright and therefore hates white people (Wright is a Christian) or he's a radical Muslim. But he can't be both. But the conservatives seem to love to try.

Joe R, google Howard Stern interviews Obama voters and listen to what you sound like. Obama has presided over higher gas, food and utility costs. He has taken over banks a and auto makers. The stim ulkus went into green businesses (run by dem contributers) that have mostly all gone bankrupt. Vote for him again and thus screw over the next generation (As well as ours).

Joe R...

Exactly....

And oh by the way...don't you just love the clever name calling like "oh bummer"? They sound so much older than 14...

JoeR- you put your finger on 'oh bummer'!

Earl Gray....Robomitt parts?????? "And oh by the way...don't you just love the clever name calling like "oh bummer"? They sound so much older than 14..." And your age is? just another Kool aid drinker....

I am a 56 years old business owner (28 years) employer, husband and father. I am much closer to the 1% than most.
I also detest liars. Such as those that say Obama is Muslim, or not born in the USA, or the slew of other slurs that so many of you throw out regularly and repeatedly.

The difference between me and Mitt is that I understand my civic duty. I understand what REALLY makes America great. It is all the teachers, and police, and fire fighters, and soldiers, and highways, and bridges, and social security, and medicare, and healthcare etc. etc. etc.

I have worked ALL over the world... I have been to countries with the "low taxes" you espouse... With low taxes, comes low services. Crappy roads, bad wiring, food, water (no inspectors) and high crime, graft, and drug lords (few police) and only the rich get educated... And no way out of poverty if you get there.

The wealth flows to the top, and there is ZERO middle class, while the population lives in squalor... it isn't speculation. Look at Mexico..

Low taxes, and Millions in shacks. Drug lords in control, but HEY...people are FREE!!! And MANY of the richest people in the world live there, including the richest man alive (Carlos Slim) Unfortunately, you need a compound, and guards to be safe, and you must clean your own water, and in places like Mexico city, you need an armored car to get to work...

No Thank You...

Earl - Obama himself said he was born in Kenya from 1992-2007 in his literary biography. Google it. He thought it would help him in his life until he realized he had to be born in the US to run for President, then he changed it. Mitt served in his church, volunteered more than most, gave a huge % of his huge net worth to charity and served in public office. Don't try to belittle his public and private commitments to civic life.

Earl - look at the Soviet Union, Communist China, North Korea, Cuba, France - high tax states - the wealth also flows to the top - although it goes to corrupt politicians, not to meritorious businessmen. Would rather have the latter.

Marty Wilson
"Obama himself said he was born in Kenya from 1992-2007 in his literary biography"

Marty... There is a name for you where I come from...... LIAR!!!! Let me say that again... LIAR!!!

I have read Obama's book myself. It says absolutely no such thing, but I expect you already know that.... Just in case there is somebody left in the world, that doesn't know that this is a LIE!!! and that doesn't therefor know you are a LIAR!!!

Here is a link to that subject one of the many good fact checking sites....

http://www.politifact.com/subjects/obama-birth-certificate/

PS: You have no morals and you disgust me...

Earl Gray,
"closer to the 1%" but not one of them, what's the matter, are you jealous? A 56 year old business owner who has time to make lame posts on a message board, you must be a very successful business owner. It's obvious you are socialist drone.

Brian, I agree. The same thing happened to Ralph Nader (and other previous Green Party candidates), he was barred from one of the debates. Sadly, Jill Stein does not stand a chance in the duopoly controlled political landscape of the US. The Ds and Rs control everything, third parties don't stand a chance. Jill Stein had previously debated Mitt Romney during the 2002 Massachusetts gubernatorial election after which The Boston Globe declared her "the only adult in the room."

I think that it would be absolutely delightful to include Jill Stein and Gary Johnson.

Remember when Perot got to debate in 1992? WE need to get the Jill's and Gary's up to 15% nationally so we can have a REAL debate.

I think gas prices are up because of an internet video that caused spontaneous rises in refining costs.

Considering Bush ran as an oil man that could get gas prices down, that may be why there was criticism.

Did you forget June 2008 when gas prices topped out at over $4 per gallon in NJ?

Bush was blamed for Katrino too, not FEMA not State Dept, but hey, how could Obama know that on 9/11 after receiving many warnings, that an Al Queda attach was imminent.

How as Bush held responsible again? Any examples?

JoeR- can you believe what's coming out of 'oh bummer'. . . Internet causing gas prices to rise??

no excuses here.... He creamed Romney on facts.... Romney lied (prodigiously) in the last debate, but that is coming out now...

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/statements/byruling/false/

The truth shall set you free...

I agree. I'm still really angry at Obama for sending SEAL team six in to blow up that BP blowout preventer in the Gulf.

Flim flam man? Really? Lets take a look at what a "flim flam man" really looks like..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bZfXvFAeHVo#t=0s

Any questions?

We need jobs to be able to buy a new car. 25 million people need work.

And who would buy Chevy Volt that will catch on fire for 50k anyway. Now we should come to appreciate $4 gas is what leftwingnuts have to say. Can you even be consistent in your attacks.

He does have more important things to do like

1. playing over 100 rounds of golf
2. attending Hollywood elite 1% fundraisers
3. increasing the debt by $7 Trillion
4. spending money we don't have to help no one
5. give out Obama phones

Again Marc, educate yourself. Hybrid cars need electricity. In order to produce electricity, you need coal to burn. Steam coal, also known as thermal coal, is used in power stations to generate electricity. And where coal comes from? I think that's you job now to find out so you can educate yourself.

Lhen

You are the one that needs an education...

Obviously you have never seen a hybrid... Most don't plug in... They generate electricity from gas... and regenerate it from the brakes.... The volt also runs on gas as well as batteries... and it gets twice the gas mileage, so what ever the gas price, your cost is half as much to run it.... And when plugged in, electricity can come from Wind and Solar (which are sustainable forever and don't cook the place we live) .... and yes... I have one... and yes... my community now gets over 30% of our power from Solar and Wind... And that number is rising...

Talk about a Chevy Dolt!!!

"And who would buy Chevy Volt that will catch on fire for 50k anyway."

Ohioans.... that was a Romney voter that said that....

Perhaps Lhen is planning to purchase a coal fired hybrid?

Birthers? Still?

Bill Ayers? Really?

Man... you gotta get off dialup and get some new talking points...

"LAMESTREAM media"

Sarah? Is that You? How is the diet book coming??

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha

John Jay- you already shut down two threads with your crying uncle. . .and your back with your blah, blah, blahs again. . .You want to mouth off here...Fine. . .But don't shut the thread down when others attack you!

Earl - what don't you believe about his affiliation with William Ayers? He acknowledged it himself. How many avowed, unapologetic terrorists do you know personally - i'm guessing zero. also - he himself said he was born in Kenya - Obama said so in his literary biography - check it out.

Marty. As is becoming your hallmark... your statements on taxes are wrong...

http://www.businesspundit.com/12-countries-with-the-highest-lowest-tax-rates/

Marty.

Seeing all of your posts here, I can see that you intent is to spread lies in general; The Bill Ayers thing is just another one...

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/he-lied-about-bill-ayers/

That was was debunked 4 years ago. Independent voters... Notice who keeps lying.... over ......and over... and over.... And notice who he supports....

Romneys hands were down while Obama was pummeling him...LOL!!

How do you get rid of AK-47's? Why get married of course!! LOL!!!

How are you different than George Bush? Uhhh... Uhhhhh... Let me answer the last question again...

C'mon man... They admitted it when they lost...and nobody likes a poor loser...

Apparently the country was watching a different debate... From Poll of Polls....

The two largest polls gave Mr. Obama a clear advantage. A Battleground poll of likely voters in swing states who watched the debate had him winning 53-38.

"An online poll by Google Consumer Surveys gave Mr. Obama a 48 percent to 31 percent edge among registered voters.

"There were also two scientific surveys about the debate conducted among voters in particular states.

"A Public Policy Polling survey of Colorado voters who watched the debate found 48 percent declaring Mr. Obama the winner, and 44 percent for Mr. Romney. Mr. Obama's advantage was clearer in the poll among independent voters, who gave him a 58-36 edge."

And, a more important poll

http://www.gallup.com/poll/157817/election-2012-likely-voters-trial-heat-obama-romney.aspx

R 51% O 45%

Earl, according to the president, the only way we can have gas prices under $2 is to have a financial crisis. Really? I must have missed that in my economics class many years ago. Also, people are nailing Romney on not answering the equal pay question, yet Obama never answered the question regarding denying more security for the Libyan consulate.

Jack S
No.. he didn't say that (but nice try) He said that is what will happen if Romney is elected. And I agree.
The policies of George Bush got us here. he had 8 years with 6 years in control of the house AND senate. Resulting in THIS.
http://currentmatters.markorton.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/5-10-11bud-f1.jpg
Which resulted in the second largest financial crash in history. Now... the last time that happened (the depression) it took 16 years (and a world war) to come out of it.
This time (like Hoover) the republicans have vowed to do (and are doing) everything they can to stop us from coming out of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc
resulting in this...
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-08-14/unproductive-congress-not-passing-bills/57060096/1
EXACTLY when we needed them most....
Meanwhile Obama has step by step pushed for stimulus, and jobs bills, and saved the auto industry, and small manufacturers, etc. etc. and got THIS done...
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bikini-graph-January-2012.jpg
While also investing in our FUTURE!!! He also mandated that the mileage standards go up. THAT means cost goes down, because while gas will go UP... Twice the mileage, and your costs are 1/2...
Gas production in the US being UP... And oil drilling in the US being UP... And Gas drilling being UP.. and Exploration UP...

The most important poll is this one...

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_1013.pdf

Obama +5 in Ohio....

Romney and Ryan won't take their home states.... That's Bad... (and it tells you something) The more you know them...

Earl - You may want to take that Xanax right now with a cup of tea (Earl Gray if you so choose). The election is a few weeks away and if you think that the president's "performance" was Oscar worthy....touche. If, however, you think that this nation deserves better and more accountability in their president, vote for someone else. I wish there was one issue in the last 4 years Obama could take responsibility for. He cherry picks his successes and denounces anyone for questioning his failures. He is a spoiled child who is used to having Mommy telling him how he is the second coming. Truth be told, he's arrogant in addition to being a total failure as president.

Donna Griffin
Obama isn't perfect. He is MUCH better for the country (American people) than Romney. I have been around a LONG time, and have a good memory. I remember George Bush running on "balanced budget" not on "privatizing Social Security" When he had every chanced (all he had to do was stay the course) to balance the budget, he grew it!! And he then went after Social Security (first raiding the funds, and then trying to cover his tracks by privatizing it). He started the most stupid war ever as "stimulus" then blamed the cost on Obama....

http://currentmatters.markorton.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/5-10-11bud-f1.jpg

In spite of these same people obstructing more than EVER..

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-08-14/unproductive-congress-not-passing-bills/57060096/1

While Corps do better than EVER before

http://www.businessinsider.com/corporate-profits-just-hit-an-all-time-high-wages-just-hit-an-all-time-low-2012-6

The middle class got killed and are just now getting back.

http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/charts/indicators/DPI-per-capita-growth-since-2000.gif

We are in the second largest financial collapse in history, and not healthy enough yet to endure this again...

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bikini-graph-January-2012.jpg

Romney is pinned to support his party and will do what they want.

That is bad for America. Including me, as I am one of the 1%

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Earl - I could be wrong, but George Bush isn't running for President in a few weeks. Obama was elected nearly 4 years ago and made a whole host of promises to the American people. He delivered on none of them and in fact, his actions (or lack thereof) increased unemployment, ballooned the debt and left our nation in a precarious international position. He either knowingly made empty promises of "hope and change" or he was in way over his head in his ability to achieve those goals. My gut tells me it was likely a bit of both. I believe he does not have the requisite experience to deal with the issues facing our country. Either way and by every measure, his presidency has been an utter failure. I've got kids and I am extremely concerned for their futures. President Obama has made those futures bleaker while in office. I will not risk another 4 years of national decline by supporting him.

Did Obama or Biden post something?

Speaking of "dirty diapers" I think you might need to change yours...

PS: You attested that you were over 13 when you signed up to post here... Don't give yourself away, as less than that...

it was supposed to be the land of milk and honey, but they started it off with the blood and guts of women and children. Nothing holy there and obama probably didn't want to soil his shoes by stepping in all the blood. fight your own wars, you started them. shalom

Mr. Clark - not saying that he should or should not go to Israel but the position of the US has been that we are staunch supporters of Israel. Isn't tht one reason why we are stating that we oppose Iran's nuclear program because their potential goal is to obliderate Israel? It's just another example of how O speaks from both sides of his mouth. Of course, he's not the only one....

Who is Sen Romney?

You know you have lost when you blame the room......

Mischance
This is not Burger King! You can't just have It your way.

Did Obama disclose his platform anywhere? oh that's right his platform is FORWARD
which means another 4 years of lower wages, higher healthcare costs, more debt, more food stamps, more misery, more unemployed

Yep, great track record and platform. If failure got you an "A" Obama would be top of his class.

Not happy about the racist rhetoric. Lol or not.

bummer, do you think big american and world wide greed is gonna let you their slaves go? no raises for middle class since 70s and you all keep taking it on the chin.

Don't dis the etch-a-sketch

J.D. Sorry - mean GOV.

oh, come on, you know his platform is to rid this country of gun violence by marrying off every unwed mother. That'll do it! No wait, maybe his platform is supporting the Lillie Ledbetter Act by having binders of women on him at all times. No wait, maybe his platform is to shill for coal by standing in front of a coal plant and closing it down after saying this plant kills. Wait, it's cutting taxes by getting rid of loopholes to the tune of you could take a maximum $17,000 in deductions or maybe it's a maximum $25,000 in deductions. He's just not sure. But what deductions - He hasn't said

Instead of Seamus on the roof of the car when there is no room in the car, he can put all the women who work for him up there.

Staples is one of the top 50 companies that pay their employees the least. Romney has made his career on sacrificing the many for the benefit of the few. His sketchy response about the his tax cuts reminds us that we can expect more if he becomes president.

it was his kind of business that's brought the world's economies and us all to our knees. you wanna keep being a sucker on his knees the by all means aim to please. but I'd bet it's gonna leave a bad taste in your mouth if Romney buys the election with money from his chinese business partners. da for don.

Yahhh Romney.. a true businessman... for China

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-gaulrapp/sensata-bain-capital_b_1972021.html

http://www.journalstandard.com/news/x2102586729/Sensata-workers-protest-layoffs

Unfortunately it might be a businessman for CHINA!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-gaulrapp/sensata-bain-capital_b_1972021.html

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/19/politics/senate-bring-jobs-home-bill-blocked/index.html

"Romney won." he said as he awoke from his dream.... and then reality hit....

C'mon man... smell the coffee... Obama wiped the floor with him... Come on... say it.... say it....

Nobody likes a poor loser...

YOUR MAN ROMNEY WILL LOSE BECAUSE HE IS A LIAR WHO WILL STOOP TO ANY LEVEL TO ENHANCE HIS AGENDA. SORRY BEGGING WON'T MAKE IT OTHERWISE.

There are people even stupid enough to vote for Romney.....go figure.

If you're going to talk about the credit rating, tell the truth. Let's talk about Congress' role in how that came to pass. Come on, dude. Your taxes aren't going up, either. Stop it.

Yes... Many voted for George bush twice.... Thank GOD that is over!!!

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bikini-graph-January-2012.jpg

We are finally digging our way out of the giant hole he left us in...

http://currentmatters.markorton.com/2011/07/where-oh-where-did-our-national-debt-come-from/

The good news is that we are getting better faster now...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/honey-boo-boo-endorses-obama_654673.html

Honey Boo Boo Endorses Obama

Don do you mean when Romney was creating jobs in COMMUNIST China?

Creating jobs in China was not what we had in mind....

http://www.journalstandard.com/news/x2102586729/Sensata-workers-protest-layoffs

Ohh yahh... Just pulled this up on Bill Ayers...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/oct/10/radical-ayers-allegation/

From 2008!!!! Wake up!! That was debunked 4 years ago... if you are going to throw lies... at least put your shoulder into it....

Nothing worse than a lazy liar...

He wasn't creating jobs. He was piling debt on companies and then taking massive profits when they went under.

Good Carol...put your hands down ...and hold your ankles if the halfrican wins again....

Ha ha ha! "Halfrican!" That's incredibly funny.

Wait, not funny. What's the word again for someone who decides that someone's ethnic background is the prime determinant of their worth?

J.D. Luke

Scott Brown?

Really? I think you were watching reruns of the West Wing...

"I think a lot of this campaign, maybe over the last four years, has been devoted to this nation that I think government creates jobs, that that somehow is the answer.

That's not what I believe. I believe that the free enterprise system is the greatest engine of prosperity the world's ever known.

I believe in self-reliance and individual initiative and risk takers being rewarded. But I also believe that everybody should have a fair shot and everybody should do their fair share and everybody should play by the same rules, because that's how our economy's grown. That's how we built the world's greatest middle class.
And -- and that is part of what's at stake in this election. There's a fundamentally different vision about how we move our country forward."

Yahh!! Thanks A LOT George Bush!!!

http://currentmatters.markorton.com/2011/07/where-oh-where-did-our-national-debt-come-from/

Bwa ha ha ha ha....

And after blaming the room, they blame the moderator... Whats next? The light was in his eyes? He didn't get his nap?

Come on... Man up... Nobody like a poor loser...

And that isn't a joke...

NEWS FLASH!!! From George Romney's (Mitt Father) long time aide.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/romney-is-attacked-by-his-fathers-longtime-aide/

Romney... I knew Romney, and you are no Romney.... OUCH....

Now THAT is gonna hurt....

Until you get a glimpse of who they really are when they are talking to their peers ala Mitt's secret video when he is writing off 47% of all Americans and wishing he was Mexican so he could get votes.

Did you forget about all the demonstrations in all those other cities citing that video as a reason just before 9-11?

Who cited the video except the liberal media and the administration? Were there any Muslims referencing the video? Didn't a Libyian official reject the video theory?

Marynary, I'm not understanding your point and I don't think your comments are accurate. It would seem that the protesters and mobs that were incited by the video gave a organized group of terrorist an opportunity to execute a plan they had at the ready. It was not apparent at first that it was an organized attack, and at that point it would have been irresponsible to characterize it as a "terrorist attack" until there was solid information to confirm that.

I think you need some context that you're not getting from your choice of news sources.

Because that is exactly what Obama said the day after the attack.... Watch the video...

If you change your TV channel away from Fox periodically, you may get a different perspective

Monk, are you suggesting that the protests were staged in order to execute the attack? And that it had nothing to do with the anti-muslim video? That's a really big stretch.

"Were there any Muslims referencing the video?" You mean when they were protesting in the streets all over the muslim world? Seriously?

I would like to remind those that are criticizing the President for not saying who the terrorists were in his first speech after the attack, look at George Bush's fist speech after 9-11. There is no mention of AL Qeda or Bin Laden even though he received the memo " Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within the United States" a month before. Democrats all stood behind our President then. Why aren't you standing behind out President now?

Bellair - Apples and oranges.

Yep... 27 is the fact check consensus...

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/statements/byruling/false/?page=2

Of course there were more after...

Here are the questions that will get you the answer:

Have Republicans ever ran on getting rid of or "privatize" Medicare and Social Security? No...

Have Republicans ever tried to get rid of or "privatize" medicare and Social Security? Yes... Every time they thought they could get away with it... Including the last republican president (George Bush) who tried both. he didn't get far on medicare, but had a shot with Social Security.

If Mitt Romney is elected... We will have a republican held house of representatives, and split senate, and a republican president. All they will need is to buy just a few a few (blue dog) votes... and you Social Security and Medicare are gone. if elected, Romney would likely do that before the mid term elections, as they wouldn't want to take the chance of a "lash back" and the possibility of losing the house....

I am not being a scare monger... Those things are just what is very likely to happen.... Mark my words....

Julie, historically Democrats have increased or enhanced Medicare, Medicaid and other public health related programs, while Republicans want to cut them or do away with them completely. That falls true for SS as well. If you believe that Obama is cutting any of those programs then you have bought into the propaganda.

If you are on any sort of Government related program (like my mom and mother in law with their SS) and you don't want to see your benefits cut you've got to vote for your best interests, and that would not be for Romney.

Julie, you're joking, right? You know Romney is going to TORCH your SS, right? Don't worry about your increase this year, you can kiss the whole thing good-bye soon enough if your guy wins. You might want to do some actual research on where the candidates stand rather than just listening to the people you know. Wow.

We can write too Mark. And we can even express ourselves without insulting other people.

But keep at it, you're doing a great job trying to convince us to vote for Romney with your stimulating and highly intelligent commentary.

The person above is a republican... Notice the attitude...

Karen, Yes. His own.

$25 TRILLION IN DEBT
25 million unemployed
Higher food and gas prices
Higher heatlhcare costs

WILL SINK US!!!

Really? Jobs UP! Unemployment DOWN. Stock Market UP. Housing starts UP. Housing Sales UP. Retail Sales UP. Deficit DOWN...

Considering where we have BEEN... it is looking almost rosy to me..

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bikini-graph-January-2012.jpg

oh bummer likes to make up numbers... over.. and over.. and over...

12 Billion Jobs!!!

Mark, you lost a few digits. Richard said that "Obama is winning 69,644 to Romney's 74" on his website poll. Obviously Highly unscientific for sure, but most certainly favoring Obama.

Nose, I would suggest it was more a reading comprehension problem on Mark's part. To quote Richard's passage (written more than once above), "Obama is winning 69,644 to Romney's 74". While meaningless, it seems pretty clear to me.

You mean occupied by a Republican governor?

A Governor who balances a budget!! Why doesn't Obama submit a balanced budget?

oh bummer,

Didn't he borrow money to do it and articulate projections for revenue that is not even close to reality.

oooooohh love the "scary" names.... "chosen one" LOL!!!

Drama much?

4 Trillion dollars? Yahh..... thanks George!!!

http://currentmatters.markorton.com/2011/07/where-oh-where-did-our-national-debt-come-from/

And as far as going back?? You want to go back?? to the red part of the graph where were losing 800,000 jobs a month?

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bikini-graph-January-2012.jpg

No thank You...

Look at how pathetic Obama's budget is.....adding TRILLIONS IN DEBT BANKRUPTING US ALL

Spend spend spend until Mommy takes the T bird away..........

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/tables.pdf

oh bummer
"Look at how pathetic Obama's budget"

Yahh.. Thanks a LOT George Bush!!!

http://currentmatters.markorton.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/5-10-11bud-f1.jpg

Don, I am sure even you will know the difference between mutual funds than owning companies whose purpose it is to support Communist China for personal gain.

O BUMMER!!!!

Ohio is what counts..

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_1013.pdf/

What does the cost of a horse have to do with anything? The most expensive horse ever sold was around 15 million. Horses are expensive. Why is it liberals always care how people spend their own money? Put up the money Romney has donated to charity against Obama and Biden together.
As for physical therapy, here in Atlantic County, a big story was the possible closing of an equestrian center that hosted a therapy program for kids with autism, cerebral palsy, MS, downs syndrome. I dont know why equestrian therapy works but it does, at least according to the people who dont want to see the center close, and if the Romneys can afford it, so what? The Obamas are also very rich - does that mean they dont understand the middle class or the poor? Do you think poor people want to stay poor and never hope to get richer?
Romney's 47% comment has been so distorted by this time there is no point trying to argue it with someone so obviously determined to vote for Obama.

AML - Horse therapyHippotherapy is available in NJ for even those on Medicaid. It is fairly effective as well.

CBS 37% Obama 30 Romney
PPP 48% Obama 44 Mitt Romney
Survey USA 58% Obama 32 Romney
Battle Ground Poll Obama Swing States Obama 58 38 Romney

I dont make the polls I just report them, but judging from last night? Romney is toast.

Stewart - Today's Gallup Poll has Romney up 50% to Obama's 46%. Real Clear Politics, which averages all polls, has voters indicating the nation is on the wrong track by 55%. That number, I think, says much more about how votes will trend on Election Day than anything else. Ironically, 71% of Americans, according to Rasmussen, believe voters should be required to present photo IDs at their polling places. I don't believe that Romney did anything to lose a single vote in the debate. I think that Obama has set himself up for some tough questions in the upcoming debate on foreign policy - particularly since Candy Crowley has backtracked on her statement concerning Libya. It'll be fun to watch, but I think that there are far fewer "undecideds" at this point than one would be led to think.

Should I be bullied by a congress that is in the pocket of foreign lobbyists?

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/19/politics/senate-bring-jobs-home-bill-blocked/index.html

The people that were against this are anti (American) business. The people that were for this bill are Pro America. PERIOD!!!

If we let them have the country without a fight, ALL of our manufacturing will be gone JUST like this

http://www.journalstandard.com/news/x2102586729/Sensata-workers-protest-layoffs

If we don't make anything, we import everything. if we do that.. We are TOAST.

If we learned anything from WWII, it should have been, keep the ability to manufacture in your own country... (That is if you are concerned about country over company)

Cut and paste is dangerous in the hands of children.

Um, Stewart. You there? The GALLUP: R 51% O 45% is the current polling for who is in the lead to win the Presidency. Wake up will ya?

What kind of tents? LOL!!

Baloney... Romney bullied her and wouldn't let up, so she let him hang himself....

Crowley was right and Obama said exactly what he said he did in the Video.... and Romney was to stupid to even see it, asking her to repeat it.... Foisted on his own petard as they say... Romney SQUARELY got egg on his face in that process... The general rule is, If you are going to be pushy... you had better be right... He wasn't....right....PERIOD... And that is a really bad thing in front to 30 million people...

That HAS to be one of the great debate blunders of all time. It will NO DOUBT be in the (for gods sake don't do this) reals played before future debates...

The funny thing is watching people that keep bringing it up, when the whole thing (including the press conference) is on video, making a BAD losing argument...... Damage control at its best....

She didn't side with Obama. She sided with the truth. She also didn't back track, but rather defended what she did after... Juts like everybody SWEARING Romney won (at first) reality will set in on this also... Prepare for a bout of depression...

She was right. Romney was wrong. Get over it cry babies... Wow.. I have never seen so much poor losing whiners in my entire life...

When you are a republican and Karl Rove says you lost... You really lost...

Man up... Your guy committed a gaffe. He lost. Get over it.. And move on...

False. Do some research Tonto. Also, I notice you didn't say anything about Obama's non-existent plan for the next four years.

Jarhead, when you say someone has made a false statement it's usually good practice to follow that with some manner of proof that it's false. The research you want Tonto to do, he/she has done. It's up to you to do your own research to counter his/her argument. I check back later to see if you've done any.

From what I know of the subject, the Romney campaign has given as little detail as they can about his tax plan, and even those on the right that support it have had to fill in the blanks for themselves when trying to explain how it will work. "Trust us" is not the basis for economic policy, and the way Romney changes positions I challenge even his supporters to know what he will do if he gets into office.

Why? He didn't provided any supportive information, so why should I? Considering I've been following Romney's arguements about veterans programs on a vet website, AND am used to Tonto's uninformed posts, I figured I'd just remind him that he still hasn't stated any facts.

What's Obama's plan for the next four years? Has he announced it yet? More debt and blaming the previous administration? Also, what did he mean in Russia when he said he's have "more lattitude when he was reelected?"
Why can't he ever seemingly answer the question he's asked? Was it that he got used to media bias towards him? Did you know that Romney was correct in his numbers concerning oil production on public land? Obama's answer was false. Yea, if anyone should be suspect here, it is our President.

Jarhead here are some facts

OBAMA's budget doesn't add up

Let's review basic math

Income = $2.5 TRILLION
Expenses = $4 TRILLION
($1.5) TRILLION TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!

TONTO WANTS TO SPEND MONEY HE DOESNT HAVE!!!!!! NOT WISE TONTO!!

Exactly right tonto...

And Obama's plan? It has been there since was elected (including updates) Though I would agree it is tough to get to... You have to click on a link on his web site...Yahh I know that's tough..

http://www.barackobama.com/issues?source=primary-nav

It even has math and everything... And the math actually adds UP!! Yes I know that's different for you. It's an accounting thing...

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_1013.pdf

Obama +5 in Ohio.... No republican has ever been elected president without us...

And... Romney/Ryan won't take their own home states... The more you know them...

I don't think Billy Graham would like my far more inclusive list of what I consider to be cults.

Yes.. by all means.. let me explain to my fellow Christians, why I want you to vote for a Mormon, over a Christian.... And all those tears it was all about religion?

The old south is still alive!!

simple, you're reaching with that. Anyone in the media not living under a rock is aware of the word games being played on this subject. I'd say she'd be remiss if she wasn't aware of the debate going on over the Libya attack and who said what and when.

Bwa ha ha ha...

it was ROMNEY that pushed it....

I know... they transmitted the thought into Romney's head!!!... LOL!!

Should have kept that aluminum foil hat on after all....

Exactly....what is Menendez doing for the middle class?

Does borrowing money from China to fund trilllion dollar deficits help the middle class?

Here is the poll that matters....

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_1013.pdf

You know that's true.... Never been a republican president with out Ohio...

Your right, nothing changed whehn Reagan was elected (after an abysmal 4 years of Carter which are eerily similar to present 4 years).

It sure changed when we got George Bush....

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bikini-graph-January-2012.jpg

Don't make THAT mistake again.... Romney (Bush 2 the sequel)

Reagan was an actor, so what. Hollywood hated him as President. Hollywood loves Obama. So what. I cant stand their sanctimonious opinions (while driving past low income housing in their limos) anyways and if I listen to them on how to vote then I deserve what I get. FWIW, Bon Jovi and Springsteen cheat NJ Taxes by growing apples and bee farms on their property so, yeah, I dont care a crap about them and their pleas to be nice to the poor.

"Hollywood hated him as President"
You obviously weren't around....I was, and you are WAY wrong....

Reagan not only was a favorite of Hollywood... He also won California (which VERY Few republicans have done)

Earl Gray - A ham sandwich could have beaten Jimmy Carter. California is a lost cause for Republicans (and apparently for those who are fleeing the defunct state in droves). They clearly feel that they are undertaxed and misunderstood. Let Obama keep their bankrupt electoral votes.

Let me ask everyone in the 50-54 yr age range making about $50-60K. How you like paying $4/gal gas; Watching govt wast billions on green energy companies which have filed bankruptcy; paying billions in tax dollars to prop up unions in Detroit (GM); Watching our govt officials killed by al queda and a Presdient afraid to say it was terrorism and instead blames us (an american fil maker). If so, then vote for Obama. He'll give you tons more of this crap.

Joey, how did you like paying $4 per gallon in the summer of 2008 when Bush the oil guy was president?

You can drill all you want in the USA, but unless you nationalize the oil industry you cannot keep that oil in the USA. It goes to who wants to pay the most. That was the problem of the pipeline. It would have come through our country and right out of it to the highest buyer.

Romney's great world tour ( raising money for himself from foreigners BTW) was a big flop. His arrogance insulted even our closest allies. His demeanor is not to work with others no matter what his lips say.

And Joey, as you learned from Ms Crowley, the President did call it terrorism. Be happy Obama put us in a position where Big Bird can be the biggest enemy of the Republicans.

Crowley was proved wrong in a post debate interview. I think it was Anderson Cooper that showed her she was wrong and she admitted she was wrong.

So at a press conference about an attack on our embassy in Libya... Obama was talking about the attack, and said...

"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values we stand for. Today we mourn four Americans"

So what the he__ are you talking about again? How does it feel looking yourself in the mirror when you know you are lying trying to make a cheap political point and you are talking about brave men who gave their lives for this country?

Yeah, he meant it in regard to the Benghazi attack. Thats why he said for two weeks it was a pre-meditated attack by al queda on 9/11 anniversary. Oh wait, he didnt. He blamed an american film maker. So did Rice. So did Hillary. They even spent $70000 taxpayer money making an apology commercial to be played to mulsims.

A River in Louisiana is red (like in China) because of the toxins from the Monsanto plant. Of course, they put the factories in poor areas, so no one will be missed when they die of cancer. Thanks for providing that info on Mitwit and Monsanto. I will be researching that.

Check it out for yourself, I have been fighting this with calls. Obama's food bill is not safe...

Meet Monsanto's number one lobbyist: Barack Obama
http://www.naturalnews.com/037310_barack_obama_monsanto_lobbyist.html

Obama, Monsanto and Farm Bill pushing for GMO foods August 2012
http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q32012/obama-monsanto-and-farm-bill-pushing-for-gmo-foods571/

The families of these people do not want their deaths politicized. What type of respect are you showing?

LIAR!! Now that is the second time here I have caught you in an outright LIE!!

Have you no soul?

Show me a link (transcript or video) of ANY time that Obama has "apologized" to the "muslim world".

Come to think of it, given the that fact that 300,000 Iraqi's died in the most ridiculous war in history that we caused....Maybe he should have apologized to them on behalf of George Bush who is in hiding...

Lying over and over doesn't make it come true... That was a lie last time you said it, and it still is...

You guys have no morals... Notice this independent voters...

Your unhinged Earl but you asked for it: Obama/Clinton Run $70,000 Apology Ad in Pakistan http://www.americanthinker.com/video/2012/09/obamaclinton_run_70000_apology_ad_in_pakistan.html

Joey Bagdano

If I am unhinged... Then I would say you are missing the entire door...

And other than the commentary of the right wing blog (and you) using the word apology, how is that apologizing for the American Government again?

Nope... Romney lost... America did good... (at least the middle class part of it)

and from 10pm - 6am drive with them off to show that out of the darkess Obama will lead you to where it is you are destined.

Well said...

True...

Don't be so disrespectful to your future President. Everyday new numbers show he is gaining in every category.
Do you really expect people to believe Obama is not capable of playing politics with foreign affairs? If Obama really did say on 9/12 that the incident in Libya was an act of terror [which he didn't] then why did his U.N. Ambassador go on 5 different Sunday news shows and insist it was not terrorism but an out of control mob because of a movie? One of the ladies on the View asked Obama and he said we don't know, yet.

Maybe because he need women with different backgrounds and skills for government positions rather than the corporate world.
Now, if were Obama it wouldn't mater. He'd just put any of his old buddies from his "organizing" days into positions and let them learn on the job. Maybe that's why his policies have done nothing good and he needs 4 more years. He surrounded himself with slow learners.

jerseyswamps

Yahhh right... Women... notice how the republicans treat you?

Well you are half right.... I think Mitt has had an electronic remote control installed from the Koch brothers though (not strings)

They are twin brothers, and sometimes fight over the remote, which explains Mr. Romney's answer last night to the question of how do you get rid of automatic weapons such as AK-47's? Get married? Is that even an answer?

"During an appearance on CNN’s Starting Point on Monday, Rep. Peter King (R-NY) could not explain when President Obama “apologized” for the United States, despite repeatedly claiming that he went on an “apology tour” across the Middle East shortly after becoming president."

It was fact checked. I'll just call you simple The above was only one of many articles I could have used.

Since violence broke out across the region, Republicans have charged that Obama’s “defeatist” policies have caused the unrest and contributed to the death of Libyan ambassador Christopher Stevens. But pressed to detail where Obama has apologized for America by CNN host Soledad O’Brien, King came up short:

O’BRIEN: Never once in that speech, as you know, which I have the speech right here. that was — he never once used the word “apology.” He never once said “I’m sorry.”

Typical... a right wing blog... and the link doesn't even work...

I did find this though..
"The Washington Free Beacon, a project of the 501(c)4 Center for American Freedom, is a nonprofit online newspaper that began publication on February 7, 2012. Dedicated to uncovering the stories that the professional left hopes will never see the light of day"

Need I say more?

Your unhinged Earl but you asked for it: Obama/Clinton Run $70,000 Apology Ad in Pakistan http://www.americanthinker.com/video/2012/09/obamaclinton_run_70000_apology_ad_in_pakistan.html

Wow... crazy much?

LOL, Mitt the Barbarian!

WILL THERE BE SMITING? It's been far too long since we've had any good quality smiting around these parts.

Heads will roll!!

No..He is president....If you cant tell the difference...

facve it people elected a person they thought that on the job training would be beneficial after all Obama is a Harvard alumni so he should (have been) be a fast learner but then again this ain't flippin' burgers at a BK or McD's

They didn't. Obama was a senator for 12 years before running for president...

Earl, I see you love the way Obama likes to communicate. Responding to someone who says Obama has little experience, 4 years, you say Obama had 12 years experience. He was a Ill. State senator for most of that time. Either you knew that and are trying to mislead us like Obama or you are uninformed yourself, again like Obama.

jerseyswamps
Lets recap shall we?
The original post: "I don't understand how anyone with only 4 years exp as a politician can become President "

Mt response: "They didn't. Obama was a senator for 12 years before running for president..."

And now you weigh in with this gem: "Obama had 12 years experience. He was a Ill. State senator for most of that time. Either you knew that and are trying to mislead us like Obama or you are uninformed yourself"

Obama was a state senator for 3 terms. He then became a US senator for two terms, and then president. of the unites states, where he won a Nobel peace prize.

That is of course after being a constitutional law professor, attorney, and Magna cum Laude graduate of Harvard, having prior served as president of the law review there.....

In fact... why am I even typing this? Here read yourself...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama

Any questions?

Earl Gray - Obama was a US Senator for less than 4 years before becoming president....not 12.

Donna Griffin
US Senator for 4, State Senator for 8..

I posted a link to his whole biography for heavens sake... Read...

A state senator then a US senator? Earl Grey are you joking?

People who are not as well informed as you and I know Obama was a U.S. Senator but a State Senator. Those people reading what you wrote would think you mean he was a U.S. Senator for 12 years. Misleading. Normal for Obama supporters. Obama moved to D.C., unpacked his bags, gave a speech and was suddenly our savior.

Like Kiryllos, a state sen. running for US Sen. (but in NJ it won't turn out well for the Repugnant).

I wonder how many disapprove of John Kerry when he was running for President? Kerry is one of the wealthiest members, who's wife is the heiress of the Heinz fortune.
: )

firedup49
It isn't being rich people have a problem with.. It is how Romney got rich that people have a problem with....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-gaulrapp/sensata-bain-capital_b_1972021.html

http://www.journalstandard.com/news/x2102586729/Sensata-workers-protest-layoffs

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/romney-is-attacked-by-his-fathers-longtime-aide/

Earl, I see you really do like the way Obama thinks. It's OK to be rich if you marry into money like Kerry or if your daddy was a bootlegger like Kennedy. As long as you assuage your guilt by claiming to care about the poor or middle class. But if you make it in the capitalist system you're a bad person. You must have cheated and stepped on the little guy.

jerseyswamps
Again.... slowly.....

I don't care if someone is rich... More power to them. fact is, I do alright myself....

My issue is what Romney has DONE.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-gaulrapp/sensata-bain-capital_b_1972021.html

to get his money... and what he is DOING....
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/19/politics/senate-bring-jobs-home-bill-blocked/index.html

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/romney-is-attacked-by-his-fathers-longtime-aide/

to make more.... and what he will DO to America, American Workers, and American businesses (like mine)..

http://currentmatters.markorton.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/5-10-11bud-f1.jpg

Yes, don't worry, Laura. It was pretty obvious to all of us that those comments were from the other Laura.

Please read the above post, and notice he is a Romney supporter. And a typical one at that.

Do you REALLY want to be in that club?

OH, Earl. You aren't really this slow, are you? Or do you really think we are that stupid? As I said earlier. Obama pulled the negative adds. They didn't work. This guy Dboc isn't real. He's a liberal plant trying to sound like your fantasy Republican.
Romney supporters are real people who are tried of Obama failures. Many tried Obama, once. They see it was all a fantasy. Let go of the make believe.

jerseyswamps

Yah huh.... No... He is yours,

I am surprised you don't claim him...MANY on here have said much worse..

I just didn't point them out to voters...

Joe I- if you read my post above. . .what makes you think Romney is going to be any more successful. . .because he's a (R)epublican!

Kind of hard to work with someone who admits that his primary mission is to not get you re-elected.

Dboc-you better go read some history. . .what created the middle class was labor!

Read history? I saw history, I saw what the liberals did that is why I don't want to see the past. I want to see the future. We all want to be rich like Bloomberg, Adelson, Trump, Wynn, those big guys, being Republican is thinking forward, when you are in my shoes and only getting a sorry $15,000 year bonus because of this recession brought on by Obama you will understand.

Very sad but true statement about American cars. I would love nothing more than to be able to buy American cars. But I am unwilling to give up quality and longevity to do that.

I'm sorry, but I just have to laugh at "the taxes on it is horrendous". Our Federal tax burdens have been going down, not up, for decades. During the past few years we've even had large (albeit temporary) cuts in payroll taxes as well. Just what in the heck are you whining about?

Look, Benghazi is the nail in the coffin to get the liberals out. It is sad what happened, but this came at the right time to pin the blame on the administration now to get Romney in place.
What we need now is money money money, we cannot survive if we have liberals in charge.

REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IS A FEW MONTHS AWAY. I predict a Republican country by 2014. The Democratic party will be gone forever.

Thank God, America is waking up! Obama is toast.

What!? You are an idiot. Who cares if you are a business man. Since you say you are more towards the 1% perhaps when you do reach that level, when they start to tax you more and you work just as hard as the next person, let us know what you think, okay?

The bring the jobs home act is a sham.

If they tie a location (ie, the move must be domestic) to the tax write off that allows these corporation to deduct moving their jobs/infrastructure overseas, then it might stop the flow of movement. I doubt it though- these companies are saving millions going overseas, the tax writeoff is icing on an already delicious cake.

47% pay payroll tax, pay sales tax & guess those taxes are don't count & are invisible to Romney & Ryan.

There are reasons why we went into the second largest crash in history JUST like the re are reasons we went into the depression. Please go read about the depression and what led up to it. The same basic reasons are why we went into this one. Totally free markets succumb to greed without control, and swing wildly, but when they go to low, they effect the real world, and don't come back quickly.

They got rid of to many regulations (that had been around since the late 1930's) and (Along with Wall St. greed) it resulted in the great recession.

Getting rid of the regulations, (glass steagal) that then allowed credit default swaps, elimination of the uptick rule, creation of bad loans, highly leveraged banks, etc. etc. caused this, and the remedy is to put the regulations back in place...

The republicans fought regulations back to the 30's and have "deregulated" every single chance they had. They are still fighting putting regulations back. ANY regulations!!!! Their mantra (again) has been that the free market is perfect and knows all. The fact is, that it doesn't and swings wildly on it's own, and it hurts people.

Alan Greenspan (former fed chair) who was presiding while the crash happened, famously admitted that he had thought free markets regulated themslves, and was terribly wrong...

This makes the republicans completely complicit in the ability of the crooks to be crooks... and in the destruction of Trillions of Americans dollars

Neither can Romney.

Really? How do you explain this?

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bikini-graph-January-2012.jpg

Romney is running on giving himself a tax break, lining his own pockets and fleecing yours.

Romney wants to be president to one up his dad....

Problem is that his father is rolling over in his grave.. and would NOT be proud of what his son has become...

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/romney-is-attacked-by-his-fathers-longtime-aide/

Putting jealousy aside for a second, do you really believe a family of 4 living off of $251,000/year in NJ or NY is upper class? You're talking about a family that is living in one of the most expensive regions of the country. There's no way that's upper class. So we're paying MORE taxes for what? The breaks should be regionalized.

EXACTLY!!!

The USA is not a corporation that only has to worry about the next quarter. We have been MUCH to short sited, selling ourselves out to China and India for greedy peoples short term gain.

http://www.businessinsider.com/corporate-profits-just-hit-an-all-time-high-wages-just-hit-an-all-time-low-2012-6

We need to invest in our future here in the USA, Obama IS the man for that.

http://currentmatters.markorton.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/5-10-11bud-f1.jpg

Romney will sell us to China.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-gaulrapp/sensata-bain-capital_b_1972021.html

A family of 4 making 251K (after all deductions) would be paying "extra" tax on 1K

And then there is the places that matter...

Ohio Rasmussen Reports Obama 49, Romney 48 Obama +1
Ohio SurveyUSA Obama 45, Romney 42 Obama +3
Michigan LE&A/Denno Research Obama 44, Romney 41 Obama +3
Minnesota KSTP/SurveyUSA Obama 50, Romney 40 Obama +10
Connecticut Hartford Courant/UConn Obama 51, Romney 37 Obama +14
Wisconsin Marquette University Obama 49, Romney 48 Obama +1
New Hampshire Rasmussen Reports Obama 50, Romney 49 Obama +1
Nevada LVRJ/SurveyUSA Obama 48, Romney 45 Obama +3
Nevada Rasmussen Reports Obama 50, Romney 47 Obama +3
New Jersey Neighborhood Research (R) Obama 48, Romney 41 Obama +7
Connecticut Siena Obama 53, Romney 38 Obama +15
Pennsylvania Quinnipiac Obama 50, Romney 46 Obama +4
Iowa WeAskAmerica Obama 49, Romney 46 Obama +3
New Jersey Quinnipiac Obama 51, Romney 43 Obama +8

I never suggested undecided voters are weak. I did say they weren't stupid and could be insulted by such a lame stunt. Wouldn't you be insulted if a candidate thought you could be swayed by stunt or say a hunky actor telling you to vote a certain way?
Read what I said again. The undecided are NOT that stupid. But go ahead and insult their intelligence if you think that will get Obama a few votes.

I agree. That's my point. If someone is still undecided are they going to vote for someone because a celebrity says so or because of some lame stunt? Take Bruce S. I like his music but I'm insulted if he thinks he can influence my vote. In fact I just sent more money to Romney BECAUSE Bruce did a show for Obama.

jerseyswamps
"Take Bruce S. I like his music but I'm insulted if he thinks he can influence my vote"

Really? You know I have seen your posts here, and for someone so opinionated, you sure are insulted easily...

Most people aren'tr as focused on the election as we here are. Many people know what Bruce is about, his history, etc. and I would guess a fair number of those people will respect what he thinks, and why he thinks it. if you have ever seen him live, he talks quite a bit about that......

Earl, you are right. Insulted is too strong of a word. "Annoyed" would be better. Perhaps if someone is a Bruce fan and still undecided he could be swayed by Bruce. My point is an undecided voter could be annoyed some air head celebrity says vote for this guy. If they are undecided it is probably for a good reason. I would think a person struggling with who to vote for would be annoyed with a liberal pretending to be a Republican.

jerseyswamps

"I would think a person struggling with who to vote for would be annoyed with a liberal pretending to be a Republican"

Or like Mitt Romney a republican pretending to be a liberal...

I think just fine thank you...
I like to include these things (apparently foreign to you?) called "facts" that corroborate what I am saying...

It is however fitting that you have a problem with facts, as Facts are in many ways the basic difference between the Obama and Romney campaigns (the latter being void of them)

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/statements/byruling/false/?page=2

Hey, car elevators aren't free, you know.

He doesn't need it. he WANTS it.

Just like Bernny Maddoff....
It depends on HOW you make your money whether it is a bad thing or not...

http://www.journalstandard.com/news/x2102586729/Sensata-workers-protest-layoffs

Joe I,
.Poor Michelle will miss all those 16 vacations. Just think of all those tax payers millions of dollars. 3 vacation to Hawaii, Colorado Ski trips, Africa, trips to Martha Vineyard, Spain with 40 of her best friends.
; )

Neither, as Obama has mentioned many times... he is one of the 1%, and has been, for many years (most Harvard Grads are). The only Problem with Miits money is how he gets it...

http://www.journalstandard.com/news/x2102586729/Sensata-workers-protest-layoffs

No insecurity at all..And corroboration? Absolutely!! .I like to educate people, and show them the truth, not just yell on a blog. Calling people names doesn't get anybody anywhere...

Are you that void of facts in your responses that you can't back them up? Without facts to back you up, you are just another ranting schlub on the Internet. And lord knows there are plenty of those...

Speaking of educating... Just read this article from Ronald Reagan's ex budget director: Its a good read... Check it out..

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/14/david-stockman-mitt-romney-and-the-bain-drain.html

Regardless of what you think, the majority of people don't think that, and didn't make that interpretation.. They think Romney was pushy, snippy, whiny, and over eager to make political points... Hence the reason poll after poll says he lost the debate handily....

Chances of that are slim...it's not impossible, but there's something afoot that may make that margin of possibility significantly thinner. Suffice it to say that the D's AND the R's have been "bending" the rules on Ballot position and major party status, and they got their hands caught in the cookie jar...but the D's will skate, because of the loyalty to Bill Pascrell in his district. (They garnered enough votes to squeak by the audit) R's are significantly short on the tally of VOTES necessary - not "lever pulls" - VOTES - in the primary to retain major party status, which directly affects their right to (unconstitutional) placement on the left side of the ballot - the challenge you never heard of is in the Federal Third District Court of Appeals as of this afternoon. They know, and are keeping quiet, before the Dems figure it out. When the final version of the appeal requiring "strict scrutiny" appears, I will post the link and a "letter to the editor". I am neither a D nor an R - and what they've been doing (not the candidates - the party bosses) should offend even the staunchest party hack. "Facts are stubborn things" - John Adams.

"Stand for what's right, or settle for what's left" - Frederick John LaVergne, "Democratic-Republican" for Congress, NJ District Three.

What are we doing for the voters of NJ? Find out here:

Changetherulespledge.org Democratic-RepublicanParty.org NationalTruth.org

We will see, but very doubtful...

I think by this time a year from now, he will be selling reverse mortgages on TV

Hogwash... Romneys message is that I am not Obama...

He is saying that because of his his "business experience: he can create jobs... The REALITY is that he was a takeover artist that gutted companies, not built them up.

His specialty was to borrow money, buy companies, sell off their assets, ship the jobs to China, saddle them with debt, and then sell them again, keeping.the asset sale money...Many of those companies didnt survive their time with Mitt as he stripped them, but he still made money, so considered them a success...

Here is what happens when Bain takes you over...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-gaulrapp/sensata-bain-capital_b_1972021.html

And that is why the REAL job creators cant stand him..

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/romney-is-attacked-by-his-fathers-longtime-aide/

including Ronald Reagan's budget director

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/14/david-stockman-mitt-romney-and-the-bain-drain.html

Earl, stop tripping.

Romney's message is not: "I am not Obama." That's Obama's message: "Vote for me becasue I am not Romney" and you see how THAT's working. He is tanking and will be unemployed on Jan 21.

BTW, you sure do make your point by including links to the Huffington Post and the NY Times. That SURELY PROVES your points!! Sarcasm much??

What is your point again? They shouldn't have been saved? So you are against American manufacturing? We should what by Chinese cars?

You are joking, right?
http://ycharts.com/indicators/gas_price

Not at all! According to your own chart "US Retail Gas Price is at a current level of 3.886, down from 3.914 last week". All due to our great President Obama! After all, if you blame him for rising prices you must credit him when they fall...right? I know you all want to be FAIR AND BALANCED.

Yeah, and up over 11% since the same time last year all thanks to Obama if you really are dumb enough to believe he is responsible for gas prices. In fact, if you believe the guy is responsible for gas prices then he would also be responsible for about a 100% increase in gas prices since his inauguration.

But let me guess, you don't think he is responsible for those large increases b/c they aren't politically convenient for you. Only that couple penny drop over the last week works into your political agenda so that is all you want Obama to take credit for.

Hh but I am Spartacus, you gave me that nice chart. Why did your eye stop at Jan 2009? Why don't you look back a little further to the summer of 2008 when gas prices were the highest they have ever been? I don't understand. How could you blame him for high prices yet not credit him for lower prices? You just don't make sense! Oh..neither does your math..but please continue...

You don't get it. I am not blaming the guy for high prices or giving him credit for lower prices. YOU ARE. I was just pointing out how stupid and uninformed your comment was given how gas prices have moved over Obama's term. And if you are going to blame Bush for that spike in prices you mentioned, keep in mind prices dropped like a rock after the spike so make sure you aren't a complete hypocrite and you give him credit for that drop. And keep in mind that prices since Obama took over have been on pretty much a consistent increase over his entire term. Now feel free to go back to your uninformed factually incorrect nonsense.

I Am Spartacus you just don't get irony, do you?

Now if we take your words, what else have been happening at those exact same time? The economy began to tank at the end of Bush's term and bottomed at the start of Obama's. Since then we have been making a slow and steady climb in the health of our economy. You think that may have an impact on gas prices?

However, it has been the consensus of the ill informed Right that Obama has been the blame for the price of gas ( highest prices ever!..which isn't even true). To be Fair and Balanced one MUST give him credit for the fall. Just trying to play by the rules you all set here.

Bellair, what YOU don't get is the only one playing the blame game is President Obama. He only has 18 days left as Campaigner-in-Chief so this whole argument will be moot very soon.

Romney/Ryan have a plan that is very solid and will rebuild America domestically and in the foreign arena.

The blame game is over and it's time for responsible adults to inhabit the White House.

There has been no fall in gas prices. Prices constantly adjust by a couple percentage points from year to year. One week does not a trend make and if you are going to pretend a .72% decline is a big victory for the big 0, then stop being a hypocrite and accept blame for the big 0 for the 2x increase over his tenure. Wake me when we see a couple months or so of declining gas prices and prices are down well into the double digit range and then you can pretend Obama actually did something. Just make sure you tell me what he did to lead to that decline b/c so far all I see is bloviating by the man and his supporters when they start calling a .72% decrease in prices on the back of a near 100% increase to be something worth taking credit for..

And so is unemployment!! Fastest drop since 1984!! 7.8% and headed further DOWN...

Earl, so you're applauding a FAST drop in an unemployment rate that has been historically high?

That's like saying my house is burning, but I rescued the front porch.

All I know is drive around and the price of gas is 25 cents per gallon lower than it was. If you want to blame Obama for high prices you gotta give him credit for lower prices. FAIR AND BALANCED!

God bless America and God bless President Obama!

Stop hating America and stand behind our President!

Fine denialist. Obama is responsible for gas prices only doubling by your own admission instead of more than doubling. Instead of paying more than $2 more than we did when he was inaugurated, we pay about $1.90 more than when he was sworn into office.

Somehow I think Obama would fire you if you were on his campaign staff for agreeing to hold him responsible for such a massive increase in gas in 4 years.....lol.

Explain why it was over $4 a gallon in the summer of 2008?

Read it if you dare. I suspect this might be over your head though.
http://www.gppi.net/fileadmin/gppi/GPPiPP1_Oil_Prices_2009.pdf

And you still don't get it. I am not admitting the man is responsible for why gas prices are so high though I will freely admit I have seen him do absolutely nothing to help reduce gas prices and he seems rather hostile to the industry as a whole. You made that claim he is responsible for falling gas prices, I pointed out how gas prices are still so much higher than they were on his first day in office and I find it incredibly funny you keep trying to pretend a .72% fall in prices is such a great thing after a 100% or more increase in prices.

Oh I get it now I am Spartacus, you're not admitting President Obama is responsible for the gas prices, you're just SAYING he is. You Republicans are very contradicting.

Anyway, God Bless President Obama for bringing my gas prices down!

Only 2 refineries? That's funny... I have 3 within 100 miles of my house... Did somebody steel one?

@ Frederick John LaVergne for Congress;

for the moment I will assume you may be correct but how many of those refineries are dedicated to refining oil into gasoline?

Also how many are operating at full capacity and are currently open and running?

There may be many refineries but not all are used for producing gasoline,other petroleum products have the need to be refined before they are suitable for use.

clamdigger
Wow.. you ignorance is showing...

I felt you deserved a more detailed answer, so I pulled out my notes, so that I could confirm SPECIFICALLY gasoline refining occuring today. One plant was shuttered to Gasoline refining due to an environmental issue, but the property is still in use for other chemical manufacturing from fossil fuels - another has transitioned only to xylene, toluene, and other volatiles. Of the remaining five, another is presently not operating - financial issues. Three are producing automotive fuel as their primary product, and the last produces it as a by product of asphalt manufacturing.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_race_changes.html

While I think it'll be close, I doubt Romney beats Obama.

LOL!! There we go again....

The Projections are based on all the polls combined!!!!

Bwa ha ha ha ha.....ANOTHER republican gets caught calling reality "liberal"

Don't you guys ever get embarrassed?

"Automatically biased" like Faux News and Rush Limburger? Both are unfair and imbalanced.

How bout this... Nice... simple... picture...

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bikini-graph-January-2012.jpg

Max, if you don't like America go get a job for Romney in COMMUNIST China!

Stand under Romney and open your mouth as his "wealth" trickles down to you!

All that shows is that you don't get out much.... You guys are hilarious. It is absolutely creepy that you label anything that doesn't tell you what you want ti hear "liberal".

Realclearpolitics takes in account EVERY poll....
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html

And Nate Silver has proven to be the most accurate over the years ,,,
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Just the facts... ma'am...

Earl Gray- Rasmussen is calling MO a win for Romney, so there is discrepancy in the polling numbers there? And the Daily Caller is questioning Nate Silver's prediction...

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/19/nate-silver-vs-the-world/

John Jay...

You betray yourself...
You JUST told us that you (and 90%of your friends) are against Obama and so the polls are wrong... Now you say the "luster has worn off" Oooops...

And as for "bowing to foreign leaders" That is just another of those baseless slurs that never happened. I watched two senators say that the night of the debate, and when pressed, they couldn't give one example... When posters like you are pressed, they can't either.. The most I have seen is links to right wing blogs where "other" right wing bloggers repeat the charge, and an actual link to a speech where Obama din't apologize for anything...

So lets see some links...

Ohh yah,,,You are NOT going to like the most recent poll numbers.... Especially in Ohio...

-so about 70M Americans are ignorant who voted for him!

So Danielle, that's nice to say, but one thing is indisputable that everyone here will agree on. Either Romney or Obama will win.

Who are you backing?

They don't allow others to participate because the law says to participate a candidate must be polling at 15% nationwide.
I agree with you though, it would be nice to have more than the two puppets up there.

What law? That 15% threshold is something the 2 major parties agreed to in order to exclude candidates from smaller parties. There is no law requiring 15% and in past elections, people like Nader did participate. But now they are excluded b/c both parties fear the loss of votes to 3rd party candidates.

Spartacus - you're right. The CPD (Commission on Presidential Debates) which started the rule was started by the reps and dems! I had no idea.

For those who want to hear other parties replys..Democracy Now has been hosting third party candidates comments to questions posed at the national debates.

NO law...and I assure you I know from where I speak. Check "Democratic-Republican Organization v Guadagno et al" as is now pending in the Federal Third Circuit Court of Appeals. It's a "Ballot Position" suit you'll be reading about shortly.

"Stand for what's right, or settle for what's left" - FJL

TY PENNINGTON
Kenyan? Is there somebody else running? because if you are talking about Obama, you are a Ignorant fool, or a Lying RACIST..

Just curious.. Which one are you?

Oh ok - you are just such and informed genius. I bow to you. Please forgive me. So if someone doesnt agree with you they are a racist? Get over yourself you flaming bottom. That guy obama is not only a kenyan but he has admitted that he is a muslim. So get your facts straight before you look like an even bigger idiot. You racist self loathing white boy.

I'm with you, Danielle. Gary Johnson gets my vote too!