Nope. Obama beat Romney pretty much from start to finish. Mitt stuttered alot. Cannot imagine him being president - the first debate was a fluke.

Jeanette, I agree completely.

I agree but there were two points where Obama got a big advantage, one was when the subject of Terror came up with regard to the attack on our Embassy. He did use the word "Terror" in the rose garden speach by saying that we will stand up to any act of Terror but he NEVER referred to the attack on the Embassy as a Terrorist attack until two weeks later, the moderator confirmed that he called it Terror and got applause from the audiance which confirms that the room was stacked against Romney. The second was a very good strategic move by Obama by not using the 47% line until his closing statement when Romney could not respond. That was like a boxer punching his oponent after the Bell. You have to give him credit, it was a good move.

Hofstra University won the debate!!! Go Hofstra! Go Pride!

Obama totally won. I guess we all just see who we want to see win.

After the debate, CNN announced that according to their polling, Obama had won the debate. Unfortunately for the President, when you looked at the internals, Romney won every significant area of debate, including Leadership, Taxes, Jobs, and the Economy. In other words, regardless of how people saw the debate, Romney left the more favorable impression, and that's what translates into votes.

So even with Candy Crowley backing up the President's "Lie on Libya," Romney really won the night.

Bye, Bye Barry.

Definitely more watchable when both sides are animated.

It's a shame that you can not be honest enough to admit that Romney not only lost the debate but embarrassed himself by getting fact checked during the debate and certainly has been found to be a liar throughout his campaign. During the first presidential debate in Denver, Colorado Romney managed to tell 27 myths in his 38 minutes of speaking time. But at his second encounter with Obama in New York, the GOP presidential candidate — who has run a post-truth campaign from day one — outdid himself and crammed 31 myths in 41 minutes.

Jeanette, this debate only showed how well Obummer can lie to the american people and how the all fell for his lie's again. It also showed how he is NOT so calm and cool like he wants everybody to think, he showed his true colors [no pun intended here]. Obummer showed us how mean and nasty he can be as did Candy the one sided debatetor.

SEEMS NO ONE GETS THEIR FACTS ABOUT ROMNEY. JUST WHAT THEY HEAR ON TV FROM HIM OR THEY REFUSE TO GET THE FACTS AND BELIEVE WHAT HE SAY'S. PEOPLE, USE A BRAIN.

how do i respond to emails from this site? i click on the comment email and brought to this site but not to the person to write to, thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaXN3Iy-7AM&feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLo0Jwj03JU&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofWPexIabc&feature=player_detailpage

DID YOU RESEARCH WHAT ROMNEY SAID OR BELIVE IN THE TOOTH FAIRY STILL?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsHs_FZW_BM&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gym_4-o60LY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVaQMSWmXfg&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrKlj4Q3nSQ&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sniIMY96Bs&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTUjYyae2zw&feature=player_detailpage

I ask a simple question and you don't have the answer. Just what you see and hear on tv and read in the papers. try researching to know the truth. Words do become construed in the papers. Here are some videos for your boy Romney. Just highlight them then, copy and paste in google if you prefer. Then, comments are welcome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsHs_FZW_BM&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gym_4-o60LY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVaQMSWmXfg&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrKlj4Q3nSQ&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sniIMY96Bs&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTUjYyae2zw&feature=player_detailpage

Do you know if the senate house was majority Republican for the last two years? If so, can that limit the progress for a president to have bills passed?

Sorry, Obama lied about the oil leases and Libya. And I'm sure there are many more. He's a politician. He's not a flipflopper. It's because the voter wants to believe in fantastical politicians who have the exact same values and will grant them wishes. They don't exist and then they are disappointed.

He didn't school him, he behaved like an uncivilized overbearing bully.

As far as lies I believe that the president did not tell the truth once. The attack Libyia and lies about it are proof. Answer the question 'Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago'.
As far as wealth what about JFK, FDR etc, all wealthy dems.

Marcos, Jimmy Drake, and Aladdin--- All three of you are in outer space, I don't know how old you are or what you were watching but your interpretation of what you saw indicates that you were probably on another channel watching the big bang theory or something other than the debates.

Obama has reduced the number of onshore and offshore drilling permits by 37% during his time in office. Romney pressed him on this and the President refused to answer . Therefore Obama lies by omission. The President was touting women and equal pay for equal jobs yet he underpays women who are employed in the White House by 8% relative to men doing similar jobs. He speaks with forked tongue. And just for good measure, he threw Hillary under the bus on this whole Bengazi debacle. I's glad he wasn't in my fox hole when I was in the Mekong Delta.

Romney's plan for better economic success for women is to stop helping them so that they will take more responsibility for themselves.

Mr. Biden came across as being rude and disrespectful. As it is, he turned many voters off and he did not do the President any favor. Today's Gallop Poll shows Romney leading 51% - 46% - which is beyond the margin of error. Thankfully, enough people are waking up to the fact that we cannot afford another four years of "Hope and Change"!

John M - Just want to point out that Obama was a kid when you were in the Mekong Delta, but Romney was old enough to fight - and he fled to France for two years to avoid the draft. Romney's dad was extremely rich and influential - he played by a different set of rules - his son plays by a different set of rules, and his son wants to lock in the injustice permanently. Glad you survived the Mekong Delta. Hope your children and grandchildren survive the war Romney now wants to start in Iran.

Marcos. Perfectly well said. Obama did not lie, the only reason there was a slight reduction was due to the BP oil spill. Btw, doesn't everyone realize that Romney and Ryan will try to roll back women's rights, immigrants rights, minority rights and not to mention the EPA (Environmental Protect Agency).. a vote for them is a vote for scorched earth policy. (Yes, the administration mishandled Libya, but they deserve all the credit for the death of Bin Laden and winding down 2 false wars, one of which in Iraq destabilized the Middle East and single handidly enabled Iran to get their nuclear efforts moving). and Romney seemed like a crass, prep school bully.. who'd rather hold down someone that he thought was gay. This is the guy, Jeannette, that you support. If you are in fact a woman, that's just sad.

DS, sorry to disillusion you but I am an intelligent woman who doesn't believe in fairytales, like Al Qaeda being dead, and other lies brought by the administration. And I am also willing to look at both parties and their weaknesses, and I truly believe that Romney is the better choice. You don't have to believe it, because this is America, and you are entitled to your opinion. I just know what I saw before and after the past 4 years and I am not happy with his performance. If we reelect him, we will see more of the same, and we can't afford it.

President Obama lied repeatedly. The moderator also lied.The next day the network stated Candy Crowley was wrong...let's call it what it was...A BIG LIE. It showed what a deceictful opportunist President Obama is, because HE knew he was lying and He jumped at the chance to encourage Crowley to repeat the lie again so everyone could hear it Again! Obama has no sense of shame or dignity. He debases the office of the Presidency with his lies and with the elusiveness of his SLIPPERY words. His campaign had to walk back his remarks about sequestration, which he blamed on Congress ( Another Lie ) it was due to HIM and he said it would never happen...Another LIE.. His Campaign had to Walk Back his remarks...as it was such an easy and tangible statement to check the veracity of. Now after weeks of lies about the killing of our Ambassador Stevens and 3 other American in Lybia.....the truth surfaced. Obama, Hilary Clinton, Susan Rice, Carney ALL LIED? Emails in the first several hourssent by Stevens stated it was Al Quaeda terrorism, there was no demonstration, there was NO outrage about a video. 4 Americans could have be saved-instead they perished because they did not get the help they repeatedly asked for. The charade about the video was repeated for more than 3 weeks. That night Obama went off to bed knowing what was transporting in Lybia..He got up the next day with knowledge of the 4 murders andwent to Las Vegas to campaign and continue to Lie.
This President MUST GO!

Romney? Facts? yer kiddin right?

I agree about Biden becoming President. It would be very scary. And 4 more years is scarier still.

You hit the nail on the head. Obama lie lie lie. The whole Country is not better off then it was 4 yrs ago.

the only one nailed was romney for every misrepresentation of the facts, he has no 5 point tax plan, he is not a job creator, he is a jobs destroyer. he left Mass in the red, the legislature over rode hundreds of his vetoes, his math on the economy is just plain fantasy, for a Bishop he seems to be very dishonest.

Absolutely correct. Still cannot believe this country elected an unaccomplished empty suit as president. Obama still has no positive record to run on, offers only solutions already proven as failures, and he showed again that he does not like to be challenged. I think Obama supporters are seeing this as a victory since The President had set the bar so low.

Let's face the facts, the real difference between Republicans and Democrats these days with the total number of gov't employees we have along with all of those who are collecting entitlements that they don't deserve. (There are many who are entitled and do deserve but you know who I am referring to) is that Republicans sign their name on the front of our checks and Democrats sign their name on the back of the check.

Plan to save what country? Mittens has no plan what so ever! He goes which ever way the wind blows..He's a liar and a snake.

Stunning number of "low information" voters here on the Patch. Folks, turn off the Fox propaganda network and educate yourselves.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues
http://www.mittromney.com/issues
(What you won't read is that 17 of 24 of Gov. Romney's policy advisors are former George W. Bush advisors; as is his chief economic advisor. So if you liked W's wars and economic policy, then you should vote for Romney.)
And then, check this out:
http://votesmart.org/voteeasy/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaXN3Iy-7AM&feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLo0Jwj03JU&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofWPexIabc&feature=player_detailpage

WHAT PLAN IN DETAIL DOES ROMENY HAVE? I'M CURIOUS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPeUrJF6AM8&feature=player_detailpage

THIS IS PART OF ROMNEY'S SOCIAL SECURITY VOUCHER HE WANTS TO IMPLIMENT

Did you listen to him or just see his color? He took full responsibility. He said it and even Romney said Obama said that the buck stopped with him. My god listen to the debates man

Justin -

If the buck stopped with him, then tell me why H. Clinton was taking the bullet for him and saying she is responsible. Only reason he took responsibility is be he was being called out on it. True leaders step up to the plate and let others take the blame.

It's is unfortunate that the Sec. of State has more testicular fortitude than POTUS.

TIme for him to go.

If Romney wins he will still blame Obama for not getting the country back it will be a game blame. However Obama took this country on the verge of collapse ,so tell me how will Romney fix this country with all the lies he speak and very manipulative to the pesident he have no respect for himself nor anyone else,He has no real class or substance .another thing he his gov. in his state,but the people vote for DEMOCRATIC, how did that happen,why they dont like him there?.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaXN3Iy-7AM&feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLo0Jwj03JU&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofWPexIabc&feature=player_detailpage

USE A BRAIN AND RESEARCH ABOUT ROMNEY INSTEAD OF WATCHING TV

WHAT IS ROMNEY'S PLAN IN DETAIL UNLESS YOU BELIEVE WHAT HE SAYS ON TV?

Joanne; how dare you come to this with facts? These Obamites are beside themselves now.

Exactly. In the debate he says that he did know and said it was a terrorist attack when he was in the Rose Garden, but it was a lie. Because this is the first time he has taken any responsibility. He had the UN Ambassador lie to the public and Biden blamed Hillary because Obama didn't want to take responsibility before the election. He was afraid if he did, then it would hurt his reelection chances. True politician, which 4 years ago, he said he wasn't.

In the Rose Garden:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLZIefhQLzU

In the Rose Garden he said, "No acts of terror will shake this great nation". Act of terror vs terrorist attack. If I get attacked by a shark, that's certainly going to terrify me and therefore be an act of terror, but it's decidedly not a terrorist attack. Given that the administration continued to call this a mob attack until almost 2 weeks later, I think that Romney got it right. Obama was playing a semantics game, and I don't know why. What I do know is that Susan Rice called it a mob attack 4 days later and she represents the Obama administration here: "We are obviously investigating this very closely. The FBI has a lead in this investigation," Rice said Sept. 16 on "Fox News Sunday." "The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. That what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video. People gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya and that then spun out of control."

Regardless, this should not be a reason to vote or not vote for someone.

I think that the debate was pretty close to a draw with Obama having the edge. The both fought like teenaged girls though. Neither had a presidential demeanor IMO.

His exact quote: "Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi. As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe. No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done. — President Obama, Rose Garden statement, Sept. 12

Is he talking about terror generally or ?

It's not bizarre... it's lame and back pedaling is what guilty people do.... just an example of Obama's weak hypocrytical character.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaXN3Iy-7AM&feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLo0Jwj03JU&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofWPexIabc&feature=player_detailpage

He also attended 42% of his security briefs. Give him some credit there LOL. "Oh the Ambassador is dead? Warm up the plane to Las Vegas"

Let's not forget that President Obama has spent more time either on vacation or golfing than any other president in recent history. Can you imagine if President Bush (or any Republican) had taken this much leisure time and/or skipped that many security briefings. The Democrats would have been apoplectic and Chris Matthews head may have exploded. But this will nver become an issue because the truth is that in the typical newsroom, Democrats outnumber Republicans roughly 8-1, so it's a wonder that ANY Republican candidate has a fair shot at being elected with the entire media deck slanted againt them.

Amen R.Decastro. Crowley had it wrong and threw Romney off. Next Monday I am sure Romney will say well if you thought it was a terrorist attack then why were your people out misrepresenting the facts? Huh? Obama is now the worst President in history. Not only inept but lies outright. He also lied about the leases on govermnent land which he claimed were increased. They were actually reduced by over 50%. Unbelieveable.

CAN YOU SHOW HOW ROMNEY IS A BETTER CHOICE FROM "HIS PLAN."

DO YOU KNOW ROMNEY'S PLAN OR YOU JUST BELIEVE HIM?

Now we really know Obama won the debate when the losers start saying it's rigged

It was rigged because Candy Crowley had no business taking Obama's side as a moderater saying the President came out and said it was a terrorist attack it turns out that now she is back trackingit lol because she knew she was wrong. He was talking about the first 9/11 when he mentioned terror not even terrorist. Secondly he and everyone in his admin were all saying it was the video for 2 full weeks !!! He went to the UN and said 5 times it was the video, on Letterman and The View as usual the facts speak for themselves about what he really said and also about the economy, except to those that want to be blinded with lies, so set up is right in this case now its blowing up in their face.

Candy Crowley didn't take Obama's side. She repeated the truth in front of her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLZIefhQLzU

Candy selects a question like "How are you different from George Bush?" puhleeeze. Her manipulation wasn't restricted to jumping in to bailout Obama (and give him 9% more time). It was the question selection that set the tone she wanted. She's already apologizing for her interference

"Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi. As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe. No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done. — President Obama, Rose Garden statement, Sept. 12

Is he talking generally or is he calling Libya a terrorist attack? I think it's the former.

Obama had more time to speak (almost 4 min more), he almost always had the last word and Romney was interrupted by Candy Crowley a lot more than Obama was. The moderator was clearly in tank for the President, even supported his lie regarding the Rose Garden press conference. I'm sick and tired of the liberal media bias and it doesn't look like we'll get a truly unbiased moderator any time soon. Romney still won and will win in November.

USE A BRAIN AND STOP BELIEVING WHAT YOU HEAR ON TV. SOO NIEVE.

Of course Obama got the biggest payout from BP to pay for the disaster. Much much more than the Republicans wanted them responsible for.

BellairBerdan, your mention of an ex post facto payout fails completely to rebut the absolute lack of leadership Obama displayed for weeks during the Gulf Disaster (as highlighted by George Carville).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P693DaOeQL8

I guess the people agreeing with Romney are not in the 47%

It took two weeks to send helicpter to save the people in new orleans even to drop food for them there it was a disgrace.It was really awful to watch these suffer so long.America is so divided. I am glad ICAN SPEAK OUT,what a priviledge.

You're so right, Joanne. A lot of us have forgotten that. Proves again how he believes in blaming instead of action. And Carville is a staunch Democrat and Obama supporter! For him to say the above is damning! Not only that, but after the last storm in New Orleans, after I believe the first debate, Romney immediately went there the next day and Obama took an extra day to get there. I assume he was campaigning, which he is great at.

That's all he has done for 4 years, Keith one lie after another. This Lybia tragedy, looks as if Hilary is going to take the fall for it. Romney was right Obama did not address the tagedy he took off to Nevada & Colorado. Did anyone notice all the me's & I's in his speaking he is without a doubt narcistic.

Seriously, you consider yourself an editorial with that drivel? Here's your editorial come November 7th; Romney wins in landslide. Be honest, you know it's coming.

Sorry, but he paid more than Obama said he did. And also, it proved the paid $20 million a year to charity. In percentages, Obama didn't even come close to his own giving. And regarding Obama, he lied and said that they had taken care of Al Qaeda, really, what about Libya?

Jeanette,

The Romney's have never given $20M a year to charity. You really need to STFU until you know what you are talking. I rarely think of the "C" word when it comes to describing a woman. You are just about there.

What a class act.

Actually Kevin you are classless, as usual. Thanks Stig for defending me. And wrong because the donation amount came out with his income taxes and was in the news. So I guess the news is wrong!

Exactly explain to me what "STUFF" is thats in this bill. What rights are you talkin about? You mean the individual mandate that was not origanally in the 1st bill which Republicans struck down in congress and then put the individual mandate in and then blamed on Obama? Dont forget that radical arm is attached to Mittens threw Ryan. Then he will nominate a conservative judge to the high court and flip Roe v Wade. Talk about rights being stripped. How about the Patriot Act? Your flippin out on ObamaCare? A bill at its least gives insurance to ppl who cant afford it. Lets not forget too that the uninsured go to emergency rooms and taxpayers pay the bill in premiums anyway. So the argument about "Why should I pay for someone elses insurance" doesnt fly either. Pls Explain this "STUFF" you mean?????

The "business" that Romney understands is going into troubled companies, charging a bunch of fees, laying off people and killing union contracts, then hiring a fraction of the number of people employed before at dramatically reduced pay, and collecting even more fees when the company goes bankrupt anyway. Yup, that's the kind of "businessman" we need -- if you want to have a complete oligarchy where a few rich men like Mitt Romney for whom no amount of money is enough to fill the dark holes that they have where most people have souls have everything, and everyone else scrambles for scraps. If you liked the 13th century, you'll LOVE the Romney/Ryan years.

Who is Oboma?

IN DETAIL, WHAT MAKES ROMENY A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN....TRULY THINK BEFORE ANSWERING.

Sorry, but women are now siding with Romney after his performance and I believe, many more will decide to vote for him. I am a Democrat and I will be voting for him, because he is the better choice and I am not blind to Obama's faults like many people are.

The overwhelming majority of women will be voting for President Obama for 2 primary reasons......he's pro-choice and signed into law the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act.

Plus, as the saying goes, "Once you go black, you never go....Mormon!"

Belleville Sentinel, that will be my quote of the week!! LOVE IT. And Jeanette, as a mom with 3 daughters who are entitled to health care options they decide on themselves and not the Romney administration should that happen, and EQUAL pay, I can tell you, in my house, 5 votes for Obama, none for that lying, money hiding little rich boy who is above other US citizens and chooses not to pay his fair share of taxes. Oh the 5th vote is my husband who is registered as a Republican, but sees what Romney will do to his daughter's and senior citizen mom's futures. I mean, they are part of the 47% he didn't expect a vote from and boy that is the only truth he has spoken so far.

Belly ville, With a remark like that, I guess we know now why you voted for this idiot, and it didn't have anything to do with intelligence on his part, because we all know he doesn't have any brains. The only thing this idiot ever did was buy a house, and he got screwed on that as well.

WHY DON'T YOU LIKE OBAMACARE? WAS 716 BILLION TAKEN FROM SENIORS?

American health system is great if you're rich. It is not very accessible if you are not. I want a system that works for Americans, not a system that caters to the super rich of the world. Why do you?

I know plenty of Canadians that travel back to Canada for their care. It's less expensive and just as good. Canada now has a better standard of living, they are more educated than the USA and they have national health care and other social policies that put us to shame.

To answer your question. Canadians have supplementary dual insurance for what basic care does not cover gemerally WHEN they have access to employers group plans (which as you know are cheap compared to individual plans) This supplementary insurance covers things like private rooms in hospitals. acupuncture. Dental. Vision equipment allowances. Massage.

Most people that don't have access to these group plans would not seek them out to supplement health insurance. It's simply not necessary. I speak from experience.

I misunderstood-- Dual.. Unless you mean travel insurance? Yeah I don't get it you can't get US insurance from Canada.. As for people traveling across the border for treatment. I've never heard of the like from any of my friends or family... It's certainly not common anyway. I certainly went back and crammed in as many pediatric appointments as I could before returning!!! Again. Personal experience varies. I'm sure if you live in the arctic in a hamlet of 30 you'll probably complain about the lack of specialists in your area. Canada is a BIG country.

Jeanette, I can understand a political objection to the health care reform act, but it's helpful to understand the provisions even if you dislike government provided health care/individual mandate.
There's some info from the Kaiser Family Foundation (Kaiser is a health care company): http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8023-R.pdf
Under the Affordable Care Act, if you can't afford health insurance, no fine. You (and possibly your employer) get tax credits to help pay for health insurance, and the gov't has to help you find health insurance if you don't have it now. If you can pay for health insurance but simply choose not to, it's a $695 fine in 2016 (the fines are less in 2014 and 2015) up to $2085 per family. But why would you choose not to have health insurance if you could afford it?

Another provision-- and I know a number of people who have already gotten money back because of this-- is that insurance companies must spend at least 80% of the premiums on medical costs, or provide rebates to customers. :)

There's a lot of concern about the expansion of Medicare to more people with a higher income (up to $148% of poverty level-- presumably these are people with investments or employment), and I can understand that.

Dear Drew Horn,
You sound like a wonderful person... please don't fall for Obama.. He is not a kind person... he wants to control (look at his relationship with his brother in Africa) by created class warfare.. he will create more poverty and then truly as you said throw them away when he no longer needs them....

Most of Obamacare doesn't start until 2014.

Exactly Frank Santore why did they out?????? because Obama care is only for the politicians. Everyone else takes Obemmer care. And then you have the death panel [as Sarah Palin] said non medical personal deciding on treatment for anyone over 70.

Ok, according to the law, in 2014, Congress must get their healthcare through the same health care exchanges that will be set up for everyone else. What exactly has Congress opted out of? The only waivers I know of are temporary, and for companies. What opt out are you talking about?

WHERE WERE THE 716 BILLION CUTS TAKEN FROM?

I agree with you 100 & 20 percent!

Hey Mark,
Are you a card player.... you never show your hand till you've won.... because the others around the table will see your weakness and use it against you. Mitt Romney is a strong and intelligent man as we have seen on the debates...

me too i dont trust that man

Reagan was a great president, definitely top ten in our history. Sour grapes to not admit it.

So Reagan wasn't a great President? How do you judge that one? He inherited a far worse economy than Obama. Over 10% unemployment, interest rates at nearly 20% and inflation out of control. In addition the blundering Carter let Reagan with a hostage situation that Iranians realized they couldn't mess with him as they had Carter. Also, cutting taxes woe=rked very well for JFK, a democrat as well and Reagan and George W. Bush. Under Bush the highest income to the treasury was made. Look it up. Also, the Bush economy fell apart after the Dems took over the congress and senate in 2007 and 2008. Musch of what Obama inherited he was part of.

Yep, and I thank God that most of us over 65 will be dead by the time Obamacare gets into its full stride. That's when dummies like Justin Thieme and Belleville Sentinel will come to realize exactly what they are in for. Sure, kill off the old people who know what they are doing, and put those with Marxist ideas in charge. You won't be so hot for it when they tell you, "Sorry old timer, No (kidney, heart, lung, liver; take your pick) for you. This will help healthcare costs to go down just on the ending of medical research which will no longer be necessary. Hell, no need for it, mostly old peolpe need that stuff & thet ain't worth it. Up goes the death rate from all forma of cancer also. Hope you both will suffer as much as those of us who go before you. But it will be so commonplace then, that you won't mind giving your life for the government. By the way our military will be the first to suffer from these wonderful things to come, so expect enlistments to go down and to be overrun by Obama's good friends, the muslims.

The top marginal tax rate under JFK was 91%. Thank you for endorsing a return to this rate!

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=213

IS ROMNEY BETTER?

Michael Moore is the same idiot who trumpeted how great healthcare in Cuba is in a documentary, which is a huge lie! So I take anything he says with a grain of salt.

In 2008 Obama said he'd improve the economy by:
Cutting the deficit in half in the first year
Bringing unemployment below 5.6%
Closing Guantanamo
Pass Immigration reform
Sit down with leaders in Iran, Venezuela, and N. Korea
Raise minimum wage to $9.50
Open and transparent government
Hold meetings where laws are written will be open to the public
Go through the budget line by line to cut waste - NO Budget since he took office
Cut 2 trillion in spending in the next decade

Obama did NONE of those things and you still trust him?

BY TAKEING AWAY OUR DEDUCTIONS AND GIVING IT TO THE RICH

I agree Jim... Candy should know her place as a moderator.

But then she proved Romney was right. The word terrorist was mentioned casually at the end of Obama's speech on 911.

Terror, not terrorist, was mentioned, so Romney was correct

"Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi. As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe. No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done. — President Obama, Rose Garden statement, Sept. 12

Absolutely Stewart. Unfortunately it threw him off. But he did miss a real opportunity when he didn't come back and say if that's the case, then why were your people including yourself continue this absurd story about the film?

Too funny!

LOL, Jim!
If we, as a country, are not better off than we were 4 yrs ago--why re-elect the person responsible? And yes, they both called each other liars. But at least Romney set forth his plans more often. I hate when Obama smirks while Romney is speaking. Anything political notwithstanding--Obama is a punk.

I agree. . . let the market correct itself.

LOL, I may not agree with the political statement the site makes but can appreciate a good chuckle. :)

Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.

Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.

The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We’re working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I’ve also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

— President Obama, Rose Garden statement, Sept. 12

Interesting that you left this portion out of your "full transcript":
"Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts."

http://www.forextv.com/forex-news-story/full-transcript-of-obama-s-rose-garden-speech-after-sept-11-benghazi-attack

Romney should be ashamed of attempting to exploit an attack and murder of Americans for political gain, which blew up in his face before the world. I imagine those responsible for the murders watch tv and are gleeful at the spectacle of an opportunist like romney representing you and me on the world stage and being so roundly rebuked.
From the posts I read here, there is no shortage of like minded ghouls who are most willing to conduct themselves in a likekind dishonorable fashion judging by the comments posted here.
Romney is a dishonrable man for all his proffers of being a man of the cloth

Josh, even if I accidentally didn't include that, what's your point? It only reaffirms Obama's strong statement the day after the attack.

Occidentalist - It proves that he associated the attacks with the film that was released. And his reference to terrorists is to what had happened 11 years ago on that day. Not what happened in Benghazi.

Hi Occidentalist.... if you can honestly and truthfully say that Obama was being honest out this whole Benghazi Terror attack then you need to research your facts again and stop listening to others who have blind folds on also. Sorry you haven't kept up the honest news.

Occidentalist.... he was merely using an example....for a town hall type debate that was aired for 90 minutes of questions..... silly you.

The issue is this article is posted on almost every Patch that is out there. For example I am reading this on the Morristown Patch. So unless it is local to your community than you will get posters from everywhere.

John, I'm a member of the Democratic County Committee for over 40 years and just recently reelected here in Bergen County with NoBama being a focus of my Internal party Democratic win.

The man - in my book anyway, has had a wonderful life, great family and now has a secure no future no matter what happens in the election.

But we need a change.

even if it has to be a republican.................

So tell me how Romney's insurance "voucher" program is going to reduce healthcare costs?

Because health insurance companies are EXEMPT from anti-trust laws. Which means that if we move to a voucher system, it will be perfectly legal for health insurance companies to collude and fix prices and without government oversight, there will be no way to reign in prices.

If you think you're paying a lot for healthcare now, wait to see how much more you will pay under a voucher system.

can't see trusting romney, a job outsourcer

I don't think so...but good luck...

As far as who cares....the families of he unprotected Ambassador and the navy seals care.

BigCat, NJ may remain Blue but Romney will wind this election. The folks in flyover country have had enough of this Narcissistic little man. God help America if Barry wins another term.

I agree Big Cat but one important thing to remember is that the Government is NOT and SHOULD NEVER BE OUR PARENTS

Big Cat ... it is also a shame that you feel that your opinions don't matter.... I guess that is why many of you accept that Obaman and democrats cannot be beaten... go out and be passionate like we all have the right to be..... Rights..... remember that notion...

BIG CAT YOUR SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RIGHT

and degrees and accolades!

YOU SHOULD RESEARCH ABOUT ROMNEY BEFORE ASSUMING

WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR RESEARCH ABOUT ROMNEY? WAS IT FROM HEARING HIM ON TV OR FROM OTHER HOSTS? DID YOU KNOW THAT ROMNEY VETEOED 800 DEMOCRATIC BILLS TWHEN GOVERNOR OF MASS. AND ALL 800 WERE OVERTURNED AND PASSED. ROMNEY THINKS THE AVERAGE MIDDLE CLASS INCOME IS 200,000-250,000. HIS BAIN CAPITAL COMPANY SHIPPED FREEPORT ILLINOIS AMERICAN JOBS TO CHINA THIS PAST MONTH. HE THINKS HIS TAX ON HIS MILLIONS IS FAIR AS OPPOSED TO SOMEONE MAKING 50,000 ETC...

Thanks for pointing out that a nation is NOT a business and cannot be run like one. We so often confuse presidents with kings and dictators...and I think that there are many Americans who would be more comfortable with leadership like that. But what people forget is that the president and Congress are supposed to be OUR employees, not the other way around.

Cracks me up when people say the country should be run like a business.

Do these same people forget how Romney has made money in business? By shelling smaller companies, sending American jobs overseas, and avoiding taxes by putting his money in off-shore tax shelters.

You can't GET more anti-American than Mitt Romney.

WHAT "FACTS" DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ROMNEY?

have you seen the polls lately?

Do you mean the ones showing the Obama campaign sinking like a stone - Yes.

ROMNEY'S PLAN THAT IS A SECRET. WHEN ROMNEY IS ASKED ABOUT HIS PLAN, HE VEERS FROM ANSWERING.

DO RESEARCH ABOUT ROMNEY AND HIS FACTS AND FACTS FROM 4 YRS AGO TO NOW AND NOT WHAT YOU HEAR ON TV OR FROM ROMNEY.

IS ROMNEY A BETTER CHOICE?

AGAIN, ROMNEY GAVE NO DETAIL ABOUT HIS PLAN. HE IS CAUGHT CHANGING HIS MIND SO OFTEN. CHECK YOU TUBE.

good point

You're a real class act! If a liberal mentions Chris Christie's weight, then they're told it's irrelevant. But an overweight woman who moderates a debate is a pig.

Rosie, exactly what were the lies Mitt Romney told? Please be specific.

Ihave to agree with you Romney is all lies

Unlike the lies Obama tells.

What is Obama's Plan about reducing the National Debt?. Please let me know the specifics.

Obama belives in redistribution of wealth, how is he going to do that? Be specefic.

Romney has always said his plan was deficit neutral at the current revenue collection rate. Increased growth grows the revenue which shrinks the deficit. It's what really eliminated the deficits in the late 90's, not the Clinton Tax Increase, and Bubba & Barry would like us all to believe.

As for Plans, what is the President's? He keeps trying to hammer Romney, but his plan is just more of the same - Anemic Job Growth, Skyrocketing Deficits, Massive Borrowing, Foreign Policy Failures, etc.

I agree Lorraine. I think the democrats believe it's a win for Obama because he actually looked awake last night. As one new's reporter put it, "He went from weed to speed." lol

You're right..... I feel as though Obama came to the party.... and that's it.

I agree James... I saw last night in Romney characteristics of a good strong man and hopefully President....

RESEARCH ROMNEY BEFORE THINKING HOW FANTASTIC HE IS UNLESS YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU HEAR ON TV OR BY ROMNEY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaXN3Iy-7AM&feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLo0Jwj03JU&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofWPexIabc&feature=player_detailpage

OCCIDENTALIST, TYPICAL PERSON BELIEVING WHAT THEY HEAR ON TV WITHOUT KNOWING ROMNEY CHANGES HIS MIND SO MANY TIMES AND IS AN OUTSOURCER. DO YOU KNOW HOW THE VOUCHER SYSTEM WILL WORK AND HOW ABOUT TRADE WITH LATIN AMERICA. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS ABOUT ETC..USE A BRAIN AND STOP BELIEVING WHAT YOU HEAR AND RESEARCH HIS DEBATABLE WORDS.

Not very bright are you?

James... you sound so uneducated! And Ignorant to boot...

Romney is no George Bush, who is not the devil. And Obama is not Jesus, back from the dead and walking on water. Ignorance in your case is not bliss!

You conveniently failed to mention this is the polling through Monday, October 15th and it doesn't include the aftermath of last night's debate:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/158048/romney-obama-among-likely-voters.aspx

Should be more of a spread if the media were more honest.

YOU SHOULD RESEARCH ABOUT ROMNEY AND HIS WORDS YOU HEAR ON TV OR FROM OTHER PEOPLE

ANOTHER TYPICAL PERSON WHO LISTENS TO WHAT IS REVEALED ON TV OR THE POLLS INSTEAD OF KNOWING WHO THE PERSON TRULY IS BEFORE VOTING.

DeShaun.... Obama will appear to be more in touch with all of us until he no longer needs us for his agenda...... please realize this!

The top 1% have been waging class warfare on the rest of us for the last 30 years!

As reported by the "liberal" Wall Street Journal (which is owned by Newscorp and Rupert Murdoch):

According to the CBO (Congressional Budget Office), the wealthiest Americans saw their income nearly triple in the three decades to 2007, substantially more than all other segments of the population

The after-tax income on average grew by 62% during the 30-year period. But that growth wasn't even. The wealthiest 1% of Americans saw their incomes skyrocket by 275% during that stretch, while after-tax income for the one-fifth of households with the lowest income grew by just 18% from 1979 to 2007.

For the richest Americans excluding the top 1%, household income grew by 65% during that period, while for the 60% in the middle of the income scale, the growth in after-tax income was just under 40%.

IF YOU RECALL, ROMNEY GIVES LITTLE DETAIL ABOUT HIS ECONOMIC PLAN SUCH AS TAX RELIEF ON CAPITAL GAINS AND DIVIDENDS. HOW MANY PEOPLE TRULY INVEST IN THE STOCK MARKET WHO WOULD HAVE SUBSTANTIAL GAINS FROM WHAT LITTLE HIS SAID

MICHAEL-Please stop SHOUTING! It's so very obnoxious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaXN3Iy-7AM&feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLo0Jwj03JU&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofWPexIabc&feature=player_detailpage

No. No & probably.

Personally, I am much better off then I was four years ago.

But it would make sense for people to ask themselves if they would be better off with Obama or Romney as their president.

I thought adults were supposed to believe in delayed gratification. Are you aware of just HOW close we came to global economic collapse in 2008? And you expect the mess left by George W. Bush's unpaid-for wars and unfettered greed on Wall Street to be cleaned up in four years by a guy whose very presence in the White House so offended the southern white racists in Congress that they vowed from Day 1 to make him a one-term president? Yeesh. What a bunch of whiny babies.

I know we are not better off after 2 layoffs and getting paid less than before 2008 and I live in Ridgewood. And the country is not better off. And no we can't survive 4 years of Obama's policies.

Jeanette, if you got laid off twice maybe it's not the President's fault. Maybe you just suck at your job.

Personally, I'm far better off under Obama than I was under Bush.

You mean how many more lies does Obama have to admit for the country have to see the light? Two from Biden, no football and he was not there when Tip O'Neill met with Ronald Reagan.

Romney is a rich evil guy with no ideas.

Name calling shows a limited use of intelligence. Romney is not the devil. And Obama is not Jesus come back from the dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaXN3Iy-7AM&feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLo0Jwj03JU&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofWPexIabc&feature=player_detailpage

Good points.
Last night, when Obama said his pension was not as big as Romney's, I felt like that was the perfect opportunity for Romney to say, "Well, I earned it." When Ann wears a $900 blouse it was bought with the money her husband earned. He didn't take a salary as governor, so what he earned was in the private sector.

Can anyone tell me what Obama has earned in the private sector vs public sector? His family's freebies as POTUS are extraordinarily high it would seem.

He got his wealth from his salary, his wife's salary and the profits from his books.

Romney spent his time on the campaign trail telling unemployed people he was unemployed too

Well said, Chris, and true. Let's not forget that every president since Reagan (picking 1980 on as examples) spent Christmas in the White House or near-by Camp David so their staff and secret service agents could be with their families. BO's 2011 Xmas trip to Hawaii cost a minimum of 4 million dollars and MO's trip to Spain cost 1 million dollars. These are unnecessary, selfish, obscenely expensive trips. When families are having their homes foreclosed on, or are unemployed and trying to feed themselves, when we are in the middle of a recession/depression, this atrocious spending is way, way out of line! Their sense of entitlement is over the top--they should be embarrassed for taking these extravagant trips. What sickens me is that when he leaves the White House in 2013, the taxpayers still have to support that family!

DO SOME RESEARCH ABOUT ROMNEY BEFORE THINKING.

Michael-STOP SHOUTING!

chris, I hope you realize you just complained about Obama flaunting his wealth in your last post, right?

Isn't that the American Dream? Isn't that why so many illegal and legal immigrants come here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEedZJka1HQ

But it was over $4 a gallon in the summer of 2008.

Presidents do not control gasoline prices. Try something else.

While it is true that Presidents don't control the price of gasoline (but can impact it via the SOR), this doesn't stop the right wing from their dishonesty in citing the price of gas when President Obama took the oath of office in Jan 2009 as a rebuke of his leadership. Does everyone forget that as of July 2008 gasoline had reached a record national average of $4.20 per gallon? And it was the debacle created by Wall Street and the panic during the last 4 month of 2008 that saw the price of gasoline plummet by nearly $2.50 per gallon.

If republicans are good at anything, it is cleverly cherry-picking the facts.....as the Bushies did to get us into Iraq and responsible for nearly 4500 US casualties to date.

RESEARCH WHY GAS WAS 1.87. IT'S ECONOMICS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaXN3Iy-7AM&feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLo0Jwj03JU&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofWPexIabc&feature=player_detailpage

Do you think any president has?

ALL PRESIDENTS CARD BLANC

Maybe we should make him take a bus.

He could be forced to sit in the back.

Unfortunately the Obama's never came from the immense wealth Bush did. Obama couldn't buy a ranch when he was running for president as a prop to make himself look like Reagan (BTW a fun fact. You always saw Bush trimming brush because he is afraid of horses and couldn't do the Reagan thing the whole way). Obama has gone to Hawaii (where he was born) or to Cape Cod to a friend's home. Regardless, it takes the Same Secret service people wherever they are.

ROMNEY AHD PLENTY OF BULL. RESEARCH ABOUT HIS BULL OR SHOULD TELL YA.

So a few poor folk that couldn't pay their mortgage when the banks jumped their rates caused the entire global economy to collapse?

Ahh yes Chris. That's what caused the collapse.

Honestly, if you truly believe that our economy is so fragile that mortgages on small homes given to low-income people were the cause, I have a bridge to sell you.

Wake up, indeed.

YOU SHOULD RESEARCH ROMNEY. IF YOU BELIEVE HE WAS A SUCCESSSFUL GOVERNOR..EH EH ETC..

Dodd/Frank caused the collapse? That is one incredibly powerful piece of legislation, then, given that it was signed into law in 2010, two years AFTER the collapse. I didn't realize that we now have the power to retroactively destroy the economy.

Unless you nationalize the oil industry the oil goes to the highest payer. The pipeline would have moved the oil through our country at our danger and right off our shores to other countries.

WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR INFO FROM AND RESEARCH ROMNEY ABOUT HIS DIRT BEFORE GOING PRO ROMNEY.

I'd just like to point out that US oil production reached its (so far) low point in 2008 and has climbed a little since then. I also feel I should mention that regardless of how much oil gets put into a pipeline in Canada and ends up in the US, if more money can be obtained by sending it overseas it will not be sold to consumers here, full stop.

I remember Bush standing in front of the cameras bragging how there is more home ownership under his presidency than any other. I'm not sure if that was before or after the one where he called Iraq Mission Accomplished though....

So let me get this straight Chris. According to you, the economic collapse is not the fault of greedy investors, free-wheeling bankers, speculators and other assorted rich people taking advantage of a largely deregulated market for bogus investments. It's the fault of poor people.

Laws like the Community Reinvestment Act, which seek to steer investments to economically marginalized communities so as to stimulate economic development and reverse the longstanding process of racial and economic redlining, is the real culprit. If banks hadn't been forced to throw good money after bad, and make loans to minorities and risky folks, no collapse would have happened, right?

You are astoundingly wrong on a number of counts. First the CRA only applies to banks and thrifts that are federally-insured. That means that the independent mortgage brokers, who were responsible for half of all the nation's sub-prime lending--and who wrote bad loans at more than twice the rate of banks and thrifts--weren't even covered by the law. It was the hand of the mortgage broker, more than any other, that precipitated the housing bubble. They are folks who were writing "stated income" loans (which means you didn't have to prove your income, you can just tell them a number and get the OK), not caring if the borrower defaulted, since they were going to turn around and dump the loan at a profit, onto the secondary market, by pawning it off to investors who were gobbling up debt, betting on the further expansion of home values. In that scenario, neither the original broker nor the investor who bought up the debt was concerned about what would happen to the borrower who took out the initial loan. After all, if a borrower defaulted, but the housing market was still going up in value, they could swoop in, foreclose and sell the house again at a profit.

Secondly, the idea that loans to the poor or to moderate income folks could create this mess is absurd. Fact is, the risk involved with loans to such persons is quite low. The amount of money lost, even when a low income family does default, is quite minimal. On the other hand, when a middle class family, striving to live above their means, takes out a note that eats up half of their income, the amount lost when the bubble bursts is quite a bit more substantial. This is one of the reasons that, according again to the evidence, loans to those with more moderate incomes are actually less risky than those to the affluent. Looking at CRA-related loans, for instance, the fact is, they represent nearly 25% of all loans written, but less than 10% of the high-cost, high-risk loans that precipitated the collapse. Those loans actually have lower default and foreclosure rates than non-CRA connected loans, and are twice as likely to be retained in the portfolios of the banks that originated them than other loans. In other words, it is not CRA loans being dumped into the hands of greedy speculators, and then falling flat, taking the economy with them.

Sorry bro. You're wrong. So very, very wrong. But hey...don't let the facts get in the way.

Chris, you are dead spot on. Fannie and Freddie were once wildly successful at a time when their standards for buying loans was very high. It was Barney Frank and company who destroyed those standards and ruined these two loan conduits by forcing the lousy loans you mention on not only the banks, but the American people who were then insuring them. Disgraceful.

You are so right. My husband a long time banker told me that the banks were pressured to make those loans by the government. And you had companies, like Countrywide, which were not affiliated with banks, that pretty much did what they wanted. And what about the computerized mortgage company, I can't remember the name, that made things worse, when they didn't follow procedures and file and keep track of peoples' mortgage info and what about robosigning of mortgage papers?. The problem there was so little oversight, especially by the SEC, that bundled mortgages and other investments that should've been illegal, were sold by people who didn't know exactly what they were selling, except for the higher-ups, who simply didn't care.

WHAT DIRT DO YOU HAVE ON ROMNEY?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaXN3Iy-7AM&feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLo0Jwj03JU&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofWPexIabc&feature=player_detailpage

You might want to take a walk down memory lane and watch what Bush said in 2002. http://youtu.be/kNqQx7sjoS8

Speeches are peachy, especially when the speaker is trying to get people to like him. Fact is, the Bush administration tried to get Fannie and Freddie under a real regulator and the Dems stopped them.

YOU GO HG GIVE IOT TO UM. FACTS IS WHAT I LIKE.

The only truth on channel 5 is from the Simpsons.....and as Bart once said "sometimes I get this feeling that my family is a cartoon series being exploited by a conservative network to advance a right-wing agenda!"

As a longtime liberal, I have become aware for the first time how biased our media is to the Republican Party. The truth is on Fox 5. I've been watching for the last two years and if they were biased they wouldn't have hired Juan Williams, who is an Obama apologist, and sometimes says the most idiotic remarks and is frankly embarrassing. The fact that they tolerate him and the views of other liberals they sometimes have on, is amazing and show them actual respect, unlike the other stations which fawn over Obama and other democrats. And what about Bill O'Reilly? He is not an ultra conservative. The fact is, anyone who criticizes doesn't watch it and only believes what the other stations tell them.

Yeah, and Rush Limbaugh is a radical leftist communist socialist thingy-magingy-ist.

Bill O'Reilly is not an ultra-conserative???!!!! Tell that to the family and colleagues of Dr. Tiller!

How can anyone know you are you? Is your name verified on the site? You could have just picked any name, couldn't you? What makes your opinion about truth on the FOX channels have any weight?

Take responsibility for Libya? He signed the deal on the NATO coordinated strikes after Ghadaffi, furthermore in the wake of the attack on Benghazi, you know he isn't actually in complete control, or can't have full awareness of every single diplomat's movements in the world? Do you even know how many there are? And furthermore, did you also know that Paul Ryan did actually vote, it was in a bill with a lot of more controversial political stances, to lower funding for security of overseas assignments?

I suggest you also read up on Bain Capital's behavior. Their net gain over the 1990s was around 12.9%, if one had chosen stocks at random or had entered their wealth in the market at random in the S&P over that same time span their net gain would be around 19%. Isn't that funny? Their business performance was lower than if a chimpanzee took a pile of shit and threw it randomly at a stock chart. Also, Bain Capital performed what is known as a leveraged buyout, it's basically a strong arm tactic that features shortcutting around making clear and calculated investments by allowing Bain to put in say 5 million dollars of their own money, then take a 300 million dollar loan from a giant like Citi Bank, and use that as their investment. They only put in 5 million dollars When the company, like many that Bain committed to, goes under who's responsible for that? Bain checks out with their management fees and 300 million is sitting in a pissed off Citi Bank mortgage to the LBOd corp.

YOU SHOULD RESEARCH ABOUT ROMNEY BEFORE YOU SPEAK. THAT BOY HAS LOTS OF DIRT.

romney made his money the old fashon way, inheriting it, and any idiot who wants to start on the socialistic comments like you are soooooo misinformed.......we have bailed out soo many banks and corporations and honey that is socialism, I'm sorry you don't have an education beyond HS.......college would have taught you all about political systems, but what is more disturbing is that you are a woman and you support a candidate that has attempted to tear women's rights to shreds...shame on you...

Honey you are not a democrat.......why even go there? Is hubby a conservative?because you make no sense......go to college,,,you can still do that part time at night and get some sort of education, you really need some enlightenment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaXN3Iy-7AM&feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLo0Jwj03JU&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofWPexIabc&feature=player_detailpage

Have you ever looked at the ratings for most college professors? Most professors would love to have 1/3 of 1/3 of their students rate them as effective!

ROMNEY AS GOVERNOR WAS NOT LIKE OR MISSED WHEN HE LEFT MASS. U\BUT HE CLAIMED TO WORK WITH A DEMOCRATIC HOUSE WHERE HE VETOED 800 DEMOCRATIC BILLS THAT PASSED WHEN OVERTURNED BY DEMOCRATICS.

Jeanette, have you ever been to law school? LOL. I'm thinking that you haven't. Lucky for you, I have! Let's just say that out of the many professors that I had, maybe I rated a few of them as "good."

But, enough about me. What does being a law professor have to do with being president? You lost me. Do you wanna see his birth certificate too? Because when people start digging in the Harvard Law Review and Constitutional Law professor crates, the birther arguments aren't too far behind.

DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND DO NOT RELY ON WHAT YOU HEAR FROM THE DEBATES WHICH SOOO MANY PEOPLE DO.

Stewie, Who denied the request for additional security that resulted in the deaths of 4 Americans in Libya?

Karl, the Republicans in Congress denied the money for security for the State Dept in austerity measures. Happy?

Bellair, Did you watch the hearings? The State Dept officials testified that the decision to deny the security had nothing to do with money or budget considerations. Don't let the facts get in the way though. Happy? Yes I am. Gallup 51 to 45 Romney. Going from bad to worse for you drones.

Hey Bellair, one last thing to chew on. Apparently Obama told the guy who asked the question that they can't tell who did it because it would put that person in danger. This after outing the guy who made the phony video that everybody lied about, his name, his address, and arresting him. Are you the least bit curious who told Susan Rice to lie on 5 separate shows that Sunday? No, I bet you aren't. November 6 can't come fast enough, and let's let the chips fall where they may.

Karl, stop hating on America like Karl Marx and stand behind our President!

Another convincing argument from Bellair, right up there with "Oh yeah, well my dad can beat up your Dad".

Karl dude, this may be a little more disconcerting if we hadn't already live thru the Bush years. Bush never mentioned who did the act in his first speech after 9-11, we saw them out a CIA agent to get even with her husband, and we heard all kinds of stories to get us into Iraq..mushroom clouds, yellow cake, Hussein meeting with al Qeda.... If all you got is Obama said acts of terror instead of terrorist acts and where in his speech he said it, you got a problem. Issa's witch hunts have exposed the CIA's locations and if you don't think defunding the State Dept security budget effects how they must allocate their resources, you're nuts. The President and Sec Clinton have both taken responsibility and you want the exact name of the person who made the call? Why? What good will it do? And if you are such a concerned American, why are you doing just what the families of the fallen have not wanted, politicizing their deaths. Now stand up and be an American and stop being divisive.

Bellair, you are starting to bore me and this will be my last post to you. My son is overseas in the US Navy protecting your right to be a pompous fool on a forum like this. Do not ever insinuate that I am un-American. You sir, are intellectually dishonest regarding the events from 9/11 through 9/25. Your hero, The Emperor, has no clothes. Good luck, and peace be with you.

Its OK Bellair, you aren't boring me. Go on. please.

Karl, how is your son protecting our rights?

This is one of those truths that everyone knows but are afraid to say because the Patriotism Police might come along and label them a bad Patriot. Thankfully, I was born with an independent brain and agree with Baldwin when he said, "I love America more than any other country and for this reason I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually."

America hasn't been in a necessary war since WW2.

I highly doubt that America would have crumbled or we would have been invaded if we didn't go into Korea, or Vietnam, or Iraq, or Afghanistan, etc. It's just the simple truth.

The only reason these unnecessary wars have been/are being fought is because people keep showing up to fight. America has a neverending supply of kids willing to trade their lives and the carrying out of atrocities on brown skinned civilians for money, tax breaks, and college tuition. And the cost of all of this? $711 BILLION in military spending while an increasing number of Americans fall below the poverty line, go hungry, join unemployment.

We could reduce our military spending by 60% and we would STILL have the most military spending in the world. We could reduce our military personnel by half and we would still field one of the largest armed forces in the world. Imagine what this country could do FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS with a few extra hundred billion dollars a year.

Karl, your son should have just worked on the Romney campaign. When Mitt was asked why his sons don't serve, he said they serve their country by trying to get him elected. Or, you could send him out as a missionary for 2 years. According to Ann it's the same thing as going to war and serving your country. That door to door knocking in white dress shirts is dangerous!
Romney never served, his sons never served and you can bet their kids will never serve. Dying for his country is for people like you and your son. Romney never mentioned the soldiers at all during his convention. He sides with the military machine, the people who make their money off the deaths of soldiers, not the soldiers.

Hope I didn't bore you Ridgewood Mom ;)

Bellair whatever you can say about us, we are fair game. Karl's son is not! No one has the right to question a man or woman's decision to go to war for his country. You obviously know nothing about patriotism! I doubt you have the courage to do what these amazing and courageous people do and face everyday. They do it for our country. If every soldier felt the way you did, we would be speaking German! WWII was not a popular war either. And we are much safer because of it! Did you forget 9/ll? The first one! We didn't deserve to be attacked, and didn't start it. We're just finishing it. And as usual Obama is wrong. Al Qaeda is not dead! Only a idiot would believe that!

Jeanette L for someone who tells people not to judge or call names you're kinda judgey and a name caller, aren't you?

Please don't confuse my views with those of the Romneys. You should question Romney's patriotism and not mine. I keep my money in the USA, I don't create companies that benefit Communist China and put their people to work while he killed jobs here.
How do you like the picture of Romney on his mission in Paris in 1968 while others were dying in Viet Nam? http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/09/27/young.romney_620x350.jpg.
His type doesn't fight. His type makes money off of those that do. I commend Karl's son but according to Ann Romney sending her boys off on their religious missions for 2 yrs and watching them come home men is how she can relate to the families of those fallen.

WOW, what planet do you hail from? You are so misguided dear boy.......

WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION WERE NOT FOUND. WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR INFO FROM. RESEARCH ROMNEY AND HIS DIRT OR BUSH'S DIRT.

I think David S Duke is actually Sarah Palin.

I don't know what I enjoyed more, your tongue-in-cheek post or the reactions to it.

And then suddenly... POOF... there will be a rainbow, and a purple dragon will breathe toxic fire out of its butt onto the middle east as lepruchauns sprinkle golden coins all over the American people and Steve Jobs rises from the dead to bring jobs away from China and back to America.

Hahahahahahahha

David, you should be proud of yourself, because I am. I said the best man for the job this time wold be a woman and yes I mean Sarah Palin.

Belleville, this just shows us the kind of NIT WIT you really are.

EXPLAIN HOW BUSH WAS FABULOUS? FACTS.

YOUR ELUSIVE NATURE..OH WELL.

HEY SELENA, WHY YOU DOGGIN ME?

This is either brilliant satire or astounding ignorance.

Saying Romney will see that women are paid the same when Ed Gillespie, one of Romney's advisors, said Romney was against the Lilly Ledbetter Act in 2009, makes me laugh.

So like I said, brilliant satire or astounding ignorance?

What does crunching numbers have to do with passing a budget in political office? Grow up.

Romney hasn't shared any plan for lowering taxes or college tuition because he doesn't have one. Can you imagine if Obama offered no plan and just said "trust me." Romney clearly thinks Americans are stupid.

He hasn't shared his plan because he doesn't have any sort of plan for the economy. Duh. And there is no sensible reason to think that he even cares. Mitt Romney is a businessman and his interest is in his business and not in public service. He is all about making money for himself and his business partners. He doesn't care about little people who get in his way. Certainly not you or me.

He will explode the deficit while cutting taxes only for very wealthy Americans. He will raise your taxes AND cut your services.

He will likely lead us into another entirely unnecessary war. He is already preaching preemption and wants to beat the war drums by beefing up the military beyond what the military has ever even asked for. All of this will further unbalance the budget.

Understand this man for what he is. Mitt Romney would gladly leave tens of millions of struggling Americans to die in the gutter if it would make himself and his gang of robber barons just one penny richer.

1. You need to crunch numbers to balance a budget. I hope your question was rhetorical.
2. Not only can I imagine Obama not having a plan, I clearly remember the platform of "Hope and change" and no specifics. Here we are four years later and he's still speaking in platitudes. He's been as specific as Romney. What is appalling is that he gets away with it despite being the sitting POTUS.
3. If you are voting for one of these two, at least think about voting for the guy who's actually run a business successfully vs the guy who never ran anything other than our country into the ground.

Ridgewood Mom, don't worry your pretty lil' head about such things. It's past 5 and you need to get home and make dinner for gosh sakes. Let the menfolk like XJS make up facts and numbers to fit it all into their narrative.

BTW, you're getting paid less because there is a binder full of women waiting to replace you, Republican Affirmative Action style. Just remember that when you want to leave at 5.

4. If you are voting for one of these two, at least think about voting for the guy who gives a crap about you.

Thanks Bellair. :)

I was just trying to be a go-getter there because people who aren't go-getters are lazy and stupid and deserve to be poor and in the gutter and shouldn't get handouts. But then I forgot that it wasn't my place in the parlor with the gentlemen and that I belonged in the kitchen so I shouldn't have been a go-getter.

It all makes sense now. We women get paid less because it is not our place to do things that would pay us as much. And because we don't (and shouldn't) do those things, we are lazy and stupid and lack industriousness and shouldn't expect to get handouts.

ROMNEY BECAME A BUSINESSMAN AT " WHO'S EXPENSE" AND HOW DID HE BECOME SOOOO SUCCESSFUL? DIRT I HAVE ON HIM....FACTS

RESEARCH ROMNEY AND HIS DIRT BEFORE BELIEVING WHAT YOU HEAR ON TV OR BY HIM UNLESS YOU BELIVE IN SANTA CLAUS FROM WHAT YOU WER TOLD

Steven, you are so right, I could have said it any better. I ask a guy recently if he voted for him because of his color and he admitted he did, and will do so again. That just shows the mentality of some people, and the others have no excuse but to say well he is giving me what I want and I don't have to do anything for it. Check out Selene on here, she is going to vote for him because she can keep her kids on her insurance until they are 26 yrs old, she could careless what it does to all the other people, as long as she has what she wants. Where in God's good name do these people come from, can you imagine the parents she must have had.

What you are trying to say is that blacks voted for Obama because he's black. Newsflash: As a general rule, blacks vote for democrats. Each and every freakin' time. (Did you notice what happened to Herman Cain??) Now, if you want to have a nuanced discussion about the perils of voting party line, then let's go. Or....if you want to admit that YOU won't vote for Obama BECAUSE he's black, I'll have at that too.

This invitation for discourse is extended to the Vietnam Wretch as well. God help us all, yes. But, here's hoping that God sprinkles a bit more help on your Cheerios tomorrow to assist you with your myopia.

Oh, and before someone tries to castigate me for calling out Mr. Wretch: I have great respect and admiration for our veterans, as a whole. In fact, my dad is a Vietnam vet as well. Thank god, for me, that he's more open-minded than his peer. Typing his level of nonsense sends that respect right out the door.

Nicely worded Tee Smyth. And perhaps it is also worth considering that many blacks might not be considering voting for Mitt Romney because they know how blind he is to their experience, how callous he is to their struggles, how truly little he cares about them and how much he wants and will do to try to hurt them.

Romney did not win the 1st....he is a loser.

I WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP BELIEVING WHAT THEY HEAR AND RESEARCH THE TRUTH.

LOVE Jon Stewart!!!!

Not if we have anything to say about it, because if he does, in another yesr or so you will be singing a different tune to that, you idiot traitor.

VV - why do I get this unnerving sense based on your eloquent prose that we might find you in a tower "in another year" equipped with a high powered rifle and several hundred rounds of ammunition as you forcibly bring about your political calculus.

VW: In a democracy, blind loyalty is a form of treason.

RESEARCH ROMNEY BEFORE SPEAKING UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO TELL THE DIRT?

Selene, your coments just show how well you take advantage of the system, as long as a moron is going to give you what you want," I'll vote for him" Just shows it does take much to buy your vote, and I guess you teach your dumb kids to do the same. If your kids are 26 and still at hme, it shows how dumb they are and how domineering you are. Your a disgrace to this country!! You have got to be one of the bleeding heart liberals who protested against the Viet Nam war in the 60's, and that alone shows the kind of ignorant person you are.

Hi Selene

As women, I know that you would agree with me that I HATE when men lie to me and try to victimize me. The other night, Mr. Obama was clearly lying to us about Libya. He did blame the killing of four Americans on some youtube video and obfuscated the truth for quite some time. Not only did he lie to us, but he also threw Hillary Clinton and Ambassador Susan Rice under the bus and had them take the bullet for him.

Those actions spoke volumes and revealed who Obama truly is.

I voted for Obama in 2008 based upon his promises and very eloquent prose. This year, I'm voting for Romney because we really have no other choice. We can't afford another 4 weeks of Obama, never mind another 4 years.

Sophie. What debate were you watching? Regarding Libya, it is Romney who lied! During the debate, when did Obama mention anything about a video? As far as actions speaking volumes: Did you not see how Romney referred to binders of women, and was blantantly disrespectful to the female moderator? Do you not understand that Romney is STILL wishy-washy about the Lilly Ledbetter act? And then...let's not talk about him distorting his position on women's reproductive healthcare choices.

As a woman who is ultimately concerned about other women, I do not understand how you can support a man who has US in his cross-hair.

Hi Tee Smyth

What an interesting name! Tee like in Tee Party. Really lovely.

Anyway, the President did in fact blame the Libya event on the youtube video about Mohammed. Even two weeks after the Libya event, President Obama stated that the video incited the violence. You can see it for yourself:

http://youtu.be/KcXjhikIz6o

As for Obama's attitude towards women, everyone knows that the White House is a very hostile work environment to women. With all those stallions prancing around, women receive less pay and are often abused. Just ask Anita Dunn, one of the President's own advisors.

"Practice what you preach" should be something President Obama focuses on during his near retirement after his defeat in a few weeks.

My brother-in-law, who is a long time doctor in Maine, has many friends there who are extremely wealthy and very generous to charities. Get your facts straight, Mitt Romney donated over $20 million last year, quietly, until he was forced to admit it. If you look in comparison at the percentage of income to charity for Obama, he gave much less, compared income to charity for Romney. I doubt you would be so generous if you had that kind of money.

Hi Sophie:

What an interesting name. Sophie. As in, Sophie's Choice. (Am I implying that your father was a Nazi sympathizer? See how ridiculous this game is?)

As for the rest of your post, I implore you to re-read my original comment and you will see that you addressed nada. Ciao!

Shorter Dboc: "I got mine, who gives a cr@p about you?"

You do realize that The President doesn't have much to do with property taxes and the cost of living in NJ, right? You need to look at your local, state, county, and municipal politicians as to why the cost of living in NJ is so high.

You can't afford to live here because of Christie.

I was thinking that she needs to take some responsibility and work harder. Aren't people who struggle financially just lazy and wanting of handouts?

Obama has done anything to care for the people? What rock have you been living under?

-Signed the Children's Health Insurance Reauthorization Act, which provides health care to 11 million kids -- 4 million of whom were previously uninsured
-Issued executive order to repeal Bush era restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research
-Established Credit Card Bill of Rights, preventing credit card companies from imposing arbitrary rate increases on customers
-Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America's Veterans
-Promoted social responsibility through creation of serve.gov, a national database of volunteer opportunities
-Launched recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, providing transparency and allowing the public to report fraud, waste, or abuse
-Provided travel expenses to families of fallen soldiers to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
-Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, restoring basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers
-Voluntary disclosure of White House visitors for the first time in US history
-Created more private sector jobs in 2010 than during entire Bush years
-Extended Benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees
-Provided $12.2 Billion in new funding for Individuals With Disabilities Education Act

You're smoking crack if you think Obama doesn't "care" and has done nothing for the American people.

Excuse me Ridgewood Mom, you don't know me and you don't realize how many jobs I DO have just to make ends meet. That was uncalled for and mean. Not all people who are struggling are lazy. That makes you pretty stupid.

Ridgewood Mom, hope I don't know you, because you are embarrassing yourself. I know many single mothers, either divorced or widowed who are struggling and work their butts off to do well for their children and their futures. You have some nerve. And even my husband is making a lot less than he did, because of the change in jobs and is that his fault? Why don't you tell everyone how much your husband makes. I have a feeling it's a lot more than most of us who are commenting.

Helaine Spitzer,
I was not calling you lazy and wanting of handouts. Please read the context of my last post. I was pointing out that this is how Mitt Romney and company see things. I see things quite the opposite from how they do, and suspect that you and I see eye to eye on the matter and eye to eye with Barack Obama.
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Jeanette L,
I think that you were also missing the point of my last post. Please accept my apologies if I did not make the context clear. I support people in all of the situations that you refer to and I think that the government and society have a responsibility to support such people. I certainly support your husband. I am not better, more deserving or worthy of wealth then yourself, your husband or anyone else. I am probably less deserving.

You expressed that you are thinking in favor of Mitt Romney. That was precisely what I was addressing. The words I wrote were clear reference to the way Mitt Romney sees things, based on what he openly and publicly states. If you are not aware of these positions of his, then PLEASE read up on his positions before you vote.

The very fact that you feel such upset in misunderstanding my post... the very fact that you understand that times can be tough for anyone, even the most hard working, industrious and deserving... is precisely why you should not vote for Mitt Romney.

RIdgewood Mom, thanks for your apology and I apologize for misunderstanding your views. You responded quite eloquently and I appreciate seeing that with all the rancor that has been flowing on this site. I do understand more than I often express. I am smart enough, like many people who have defamed me, to understand that neither side is perfect, however, I have been thinking about Obama and why I could never vote for him for the last 4 years. Too many people have not looked at him, except for the wonderment of his skin color and his eloquence. Unfortunately, people do not want to understand that this is not a phenomena, there are plenty of men and women who fit both categories and they should look beyond his eloquence to see what he is really saying. I have done that with both of them. I take some of Romney's views with a grain of salt, but also know he has to say things that he will not be pursuing if he wins, because it will appease the disparate elements of his party. But he is quite moderate, as my brother-in-law, the doctor has said to me, he is a Republican who believes in pro choice and gay marriage and I believe there are many more members of the party, who believe as he and I do. Even though I am not a Republican, I do believe in Romney, and what he stands for and many more Republicans, who are not as vocal. And maybe if the press had been more open-minded and not one-sided about Obama's weaknesses, maybe I wouldn't feel that way.

WHAT PLANET YOU ON;
IF NOBAMA WINS; HIGHLY UNLIKELY
OUR COUNTRY WILL TOTALY TANK;
AND WILD BILLS TAMPERING WITH FANNY MAE AND FREDDY MAC CAUSED THE HOUSING MELTDOWN; GOLDMAN SACHS FLUBBING PROFITS; AND 2 NECESSARY WARS ALL DUMPED IN BUSHES LAP FOR WHICH HE WAS/IS BLAMED...............

GALLUP: R 52% O 45%

Sorry for the misunderstanding, then.

I am not sure if Romney would be better or not. I just know that the past four years have shown no significant changes for the better. Gas and taxes are at an all time high, the housing market is upside down and we are trillions of dollars in debt as a nation. I am hoping some new blood will bring about something good.

Helaine, gas prices were higher in the summer of 2008, and they have dropped 25 cents in our area recently. Unless you nationalize the oil industry we cannot keep the oil drilled here in the USA. Housing prices have stabilized and have been going up in our area. I am seeing construction and renovations again. Your taxes have gone down, unless you mean property taxes, then you should look to the Governor as why. Every survey of Romney's "plan" will be to put us more into debt. We are on the right track with Obama, don't be fooled to go back to the old ways that got us into the mess were in, just because they say Obama hasn't dug us out fast enough from what they caused.

The problem is my party only sees the good in Obama, and refuse to see his flaws. ALL politicians are human and therefore flawed. But the problem is when the bad outweighs the good and this is a time it is true with Obama. And I can't trust a man who refuses to take responsibility for anything he does so that he can win reelection. He needs to man up! And if he respected women, he wouldn't have treated Hillary so despicably from the very beginning. I'm not stupid to believe that either man is perfect, but I think Romney is the better choice and man.

Yeah USA but then Obummer said he couldn't get anything done from congress, and it was all democrap controlled. Maybe they didn't want to give him anything because they knew he was an idiot also.

Jossy, 2 points: Obama still hasn't told the American people what his plan for the second term is. Romney has been very clear about his vision for the country. Also, you do understand the difference between "legal" and "illegal" immigration, don't you?

He did not win, if he did it was by a hair! And he flubbed it at the end with the Libya lie! So what debate were you watching? Excuse me, I understand immigrants and the origin of America, because my parents were legal immigrants and many other people like me know that too! In fact, my mother was so grateful to be hear, and is a staunch Republican, would say that if you don't like America, leave and go to a community country where there is no freedom! And there is a difference! My parents got here the legal way as many more people have done. He's right. We can't afford illegal immigrants who do not pay taxes, and who tax the school systems, and health systems, who do not get reimbursed for treating them.

I mean communist country.

Many undocumented immigrants do pay taxes, taxes they can never benefit from. If they are being paid cash, it is the employer that is cheating you. The immigrant will still be paying rent, where the owner figures his school and local taxes into what he charges, and they pay sales tax.

They don't pay income taxes and social security taxes and they cause great burdens son hospitals because that's where they will go instead of a doctor.

It is the evil genius of people like Karl Rove and the Koch brothers who are able to galvanize and exploit the innate racism that is still endemic in our culture under the guise of "conservative ideology" in their coordinated effort to manipulate the masses to do their reprehensible bidding so that these few privileged plutocrats can maintain the status quo they have enjoyed these last 3 decades at the rest of our collective expense.

You need to stop taking drugs, because that is the most extreme bit of nonsense I have ever heard! That's why I love liberals now, I am too moderate now to be called that, who name call and obfuscate the facts because they have no leg to stand on!

JL - I guess you would argue that that the Tea Party and the NAACP have about the same racial distribution? And that the former doesn't exist largely due to its hatred of the members of the latter?

Belleville are you kidding me, saying the Tea Party are racists? If that isn't an ignorant comment. Let's put it this way, I know Tea Partyers who are not racists, and let me tell you sometimes the NAACP sees racism where it doesn't exist. Neither organization is perfect.

JL - and I bet if you looked real hard, you could have found some Nazis after the end of WWII who liked Jews!

Seriously, take a look at:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/04/25/are-tea-partiers-racist.html

or do any Google search using "tea party racist" and tell me again how there isn't a plethora of evidence supporting this contention.

While I'm not asserting that all Tea Baggers are racists, it is a latent core value for the organization.

As Bill Maher said...."You know the 2 things Tea-Party members hate most? 1. Being called racists and 2. Black people!"

With your ubiquitous and dubious postings, I'm wondering it you might actually be Anne Coulter or Michelle Malkin in disguise. But then Coulter has recently argued that our country would be better off if women weren't allowed to vote (at least not for democrats) and I would never want this to happen, not even to you, as someday I know you'll see the light and become a democrat!

Belleville, the Tea Party is about the Constitution and there are blacks in the Republican Party who want to be there and if you read the whole article, there were answers from Tea Partyers what were said. And this is the same Bill Maher who said that Obama did need a teleprompter after the first debate and I've listened to him for years and he's a first class jerk! So I can't take anything he says seriously. And comparing me to Ann Coulter is an insult because she is an extremist conservative, sort of like Obama is on opposite sides. He's just better at being charming and sounding reasonable. As my brother-in-law the doctor from Maine says, he is a Republican who believes in pro choice and gay marriage, and that there are many types of Republicans, the media just won't admit it. And unfortunately, the Democratic party has too many members who are not moderate and willing to listen to the other side.

There are more African-Americans at an Osmond family reunion then there are in the Tea Party!

Amen to that. I only started getting involved with posting because I was tired of the excessive and unfair Romney bashing and Republican party bashing. That's why I am embarrassed for my party. Because on Huffington Post and here, the majority who are doing it are obviously, from their posts, liberals. I always we were so much better than that. And now I see, everything we, over the years, have accused the Republican Party of, we are guilty ourselves.

As Stephen Colbert said, "Reality has a well-known liberal bias".

And what about all the money we lost on unproven wind, solar, etc. companies because of Obama? That's not pocket change and the deficit grows.

WHAT MAKES OBAMA A BETTER CHOICE? WHAT TRUTH DOES HE HAVE TO SUPPORT WHAT HE SAYS AND DON"T TELL ME THE SAME STUFF YOU HEAR FROM THE TV. If you can't stop screaming, time for medication, then you shouldn't be posting. It makes you look like a lunatic. And I actually read articles. Can you read? I doubt it.

Did you even read this? It doesn't look any better for Obama? 4 more years scares the heck out of me!

No Child Left Behind. You mean that piece of legislation from 2001 proposed by President George Bush?

Do you care at all about facts Jeanette? No wonder you were laid off twice. You suck at brain stuff.

If your school taxes are high, you might want to ask the Governor why his administration could not perform the necessary tasks required to successfully compete for "race to the top" funding which would have provided millions if dollars to the state for education. Attempting to blame the President for NJ's high property taxes is a desperate moronic move..

You mean you can't wait when Romney has won and the Obama folks realize it was all for naught and go home.

You could be waiting a long time for that, try four or eight more years. Wonder why you have stopped quoting the polls . . .oh wait, maybe it's because Romney is now in the lead and stretching out his advantage day after day after day.

This one has to have the Axe & Co. swigging hemlock - http://www.gallup.com/poll/157817/election-2012-likely-voters-trial-heat-obama-romney.aspx

All the Obamaphiles better go to church this weekend and pray that Romney implodes on Monday night. Absent a disastrous performance by the governor, it's game, set & match.

Cue the music - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3xsDv6yCnY

I don't think it will be that easy. The polls show Romney leading right now and who knows what will happen after the next debate, especially when Romney reminds Obama and the public about Libya.

Ha, ha! Romney is leading by 7 points (even though 80% of the media are in the tank for Obama) because people are finally realizing what a fraud Obama has been. His socialist nanny-state policies have not worked and it's time for free-market ideas. America is not going to follow the European path to bankruptcy. Enough with the reckless spending, enormous waste, green energy crap, high gas prices, high unemployment, and a foreign policy based on appeasement (Mr. Medvedev, you can tell Vlad Putin that President Romney will not compromise America's interests). This regime is collapsing in front of our very eyes. Obama is done.

Here are some EC predictions for you folks to chew on...enjoy!

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/2012_electoral_college_scoreboard

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/gallup-vs-the-world/?hp

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2012/ecalculator#?battleground

None point to a victory for Mitt.

Ah Grasshopper, still focusing on point-in-time numbers. Must look at trajectory & velocity, i.e., momentum. Romney has it all. Obama is dead in the water and listing to port (like all Libs!).

By this time next week it will be obvious to all but a few bitter dead-enders that it is Oh-Vah.

There are still "undecideds" out there, and they are people like this - http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/undecided-voter/1418227

Jeanette, Thank you so much, you have no idea what words like that mean to all of us who has served this country well, and don't want to see it destroyed because of a would-be dictator. This admin. has got to be stopped brfore its to late for our country. Thank you again.

Austerity is precisely what Romney wants to do. It is what he publicly endorses. This is the most fundamental difference between Romney and Obama with reference to economics.

It's called the Jonathan Alter Syndrome. Actually saw his melt-down live in 2000.

http://www.mrc.org/node/2670