Preventing Gun Violence: A Legislative Agenda

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State Senator Loretta Weinberg will discuss legislative initiatives to stem gun violence. This platform address is open to the public, free of charge

Art Vatsky February 23, 2013 at 12:17 AM
Pro or con this is an event not to be missed. Sen. Weinberg has been working to stem gun violence in NJ for more than a decade. Perhaps that is why NJ is known for having stronger gun laws. The sad case of South Africa's Oscar Pistorius (aka Blade Runner) is but the latest example of mistaken identity causing an unintended death. Happens all the time here in the US.
Teaneck_Resident February 23, 2013 at 01:18 PM
Art, The problem is that many of the representatives that are crafting these new laws do not know much about guns. At the last meeting Weinberg flat out admitted that she did not know much about guns. Stronger laws will do nothing because the ones that are on the books now are not enforced. Nor do our rep's even understand them. Also, many of these new laws will have many unintended consequences. As a matter of fact her colleague Johnson who is an ex-police officer and ex-military did not even know much about guns. They did not know who difficult it is to obtain a FID Card nor that when ammuniton is purchased via the Internet the vendors make you provide them with a copy of your FID Card and drivers licenses. It makes me very nervous that the people working against guns and gun violence do not know much about the objects and are fixated on guns. We need to remove the "guns" from this. Guns are an object, the issue we have to deal with is violence. Laws can and restrict anything they want but they will not stop violence. We need to address the root cause of violence. We all need to take a step back, stop blaming the guns and address the real issue which is VIOLENCE. Let's assume this is all true, then the Pistorius case is about him being stupid and no matter what laws you have you can't fix stupid.
Art Vatsky February 23, 2013 at 09:11 PM
Teaneck Resident: Can't find much to disagree with in your comments. What I am picturing is a culling of gun laws so that only the effective ones remain. The ineffective nuisance ones do no one any good except those employed enforcing them. What are your ideas for stopping people being hit by stray bullets or kids innocently blowing their friends head off? What do we do with gun inflicted suicide? Obviously the laws we have now are at best only partially effective. Sen. Weinberg advocated for a gun owner trigger lock so that only the identified owner could fire the weapon, not the son as in the case of Newtown, CT. The law doesn't protect a spouse from being shot but it does protect the owner from being shot by another family member. It also preserves the owner's ability to defend home. I hope you'll come to the meeting on March 3. You are right. The real issue is violence and guns do remain the fastest, most powerful tool to do that. Hope some progress can be made.
Bonnie February 23, 2013 at 10:31 PM
Glad you brought up the Pistorious case- it is about the guns! That girl would probably be alive today if Pistorius didn't have a gun. If Adam Lanzar went into the elementary school with a knife- someone might have been hurt- but 26 people would not be dead. Guns are way more lethal- and it IS ABOUT THE GUNS! Twenty thousand people die in this country every year due to killing themselves (suicides) with a gun. The people who try to kill themselves with pills only succeed about 30 percent of the time vs. 85 percent of the time with guns. These people have a second chance to seek help and get their lives together- not so if you have a gun. IT IS ABOUT THE GUNS!!!
Teaneck_Resident February 24, 2013 at 02:19 PM
Art - One stray bullets. When was the last time you were ht with a stray bullet? Does it happen yes, but more people are hit by cars on a daily bias than stray bullets. 115 people die in car accidents every day a much higher number than people who die from gunshots. kids innocently blowing their friends head off - That's why there are gun safes. Again you cannot fix stupid (on the gun owners part) if a parent does not lock up a firearm. Mine are locked up. The same goes for kids taking medication that is left on a counter. It's the adults responsibility to keep it out of the kids hands. Sen. Weinberg advocated for a gun owner trigger lock so that only the identified owner could fire the weapon - She has no clue what she is talking about and she has admitted that. Secondly, what she is talking about is a biometric trigger lock. Fine and dandy but what if this device fails the correct gun owner whlie he or she is being attacked in their home? I have stresses over and over and over and over again that guns are a tool. Period end. The issue is violence. If you people think that you will be safer due to stricter gun laws you are fooling yourselves.
Teaneck_Resident February 24, 2013 at 02:22 PM
The last part of my statement becuase Patch limits our posts to 1500 words. Two examples: 1. At the last Ethical Society Meeting Weinberg made a statement to a gun owner that I will never forget. She told him that if she ever needs a protector she will call him. 2. My neighbor told me that he is really happy that all these new gun Bills are being passed. However, in the same breath he tells me that he is glad I own firearms because if he needs help he knows where to to. So it's all about the "guns" until you need the guys that own guns to protect you. Good luck because we won't. Go use bad words and reasoning when three thugs are in your house or your life is in danger. As a matter of fact go call 911 and wait for the Teaneck, PD. It should only take them 5 minutes to respond.
Teaneck_Resident February 24, 2013 at 02:26 PM
Pistorious is an idiot and this case has seems way too fishy to me. The animal that shot those kids would have hurt way more people with other means. Did you forget about Timothy McVeigh? Twenty thousand people die in this country every year due to killing themselves (suicides) with a gun. - They will hang themselves or jump off bridges as just recently happened. Stop fooling yourself. The people who try to kill themselves with pills only succeed about 30 percent of the time vs. 85 percent of the time with guns. -Because most of the people using "pills" are not set on killing themselves. So what is the underlying tone in all your statements. Mental health my dear. Treat mental health and violence and then you will have a chance to make a difference.
Teaneck_Resident February 24, 2013 at 04:07 PM
Art the reason NJ has such strong gun laws is because most people in NJ need a nanny to make them feel safe and warm. That is why NJ is known as the Nanny State. Nanny..nanny give me a false sense of security against a rapist..nanny..nanny the police will protect me while some thug is breaking down my door...nanny..nanny I'm dead is so is my family. People in this state and Teaneck need to grow a pair.
Jarvis Rodriguez February 24, 2013 at 08:31 PM
Please do not bring up the Pistorius case. We do not live in South Africa, we live in the United States of America. I'm sure you and I do not know the gun laws or lack thereof in South Africa. As far as I'm concerned Pistorius is a criminal who murdered his girlfriend by shooting through a locked bathroom door. Any legal gun owner knows that is a big NONO. You always make sure you sight your target and know what's beyond that target. Guns are used as a last resort to save your life or your loved ones life who is in immediate mortal danger. As you know, when someone is invading your home, the police are only minutes away. The police have NO DUTY to protect anyone as recent supreme court cases prove. They are there to take a statement, or draw a chalk outline of your body after the fact. Case in point. It took the police 20 minutes to respond to the Newtown shootings. 20 minutes?? If there would have been an armed guard at that school, perhaps some more kids would be alive today. How about putting up some legislation that actually protects our children instead of useless gun laws that do nothing except make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to exercise their God given right to protect themselves? Protect our children and stop trying to persecute law abiding citizens.
Teaneck_Resident February 25, 2013 at 12:10 AM
Well put Bergen Resident, I couldn't agree more. However, we do live in the Nanny State a.k.a New Jersey.
Kellie Lando February 25, 2013 at 04:57 AM
So true....
Keith Jensen February 25, 2013 at 06:13 AM
Perhaps the Senator could include an earmark in the Bill? Not for money, rather to simply say since valid IDs will be necessary for a gun permit, she can add valid identifications are needed to vote. Why not? Lets see what she says. She does read these posts.
Passaic resident February 26, 2013 at 01:22 PM
You are aware that at least 2 national background checks are required to purchase a firearm? In the case of a hand gun it's frequently 3. The first sign of a productive debate is that both sides have actual knowledge of the topic. Few, if not none, of the parties trying to further limit my rights have a clue of how gun rights are already curtailed in this state. Or of the process involved in purchasing a firearm. Reasearch. Don't listen to the media drivel. Either side. Reasearch the NJ law. It's on the Internet.
Legal Notice February 26, 2013 at 04:18 PM
One has just to look at the actors and the venue to know the true agenda of this group. This so called ethical culture society is associated with Move ON and George Soros who is an economic criminal. As for Loretta Weinberg who lacks basic constitutional Law and common law experience. You cant talk about Gun violence in the inner cities of Trenton, Newark, Camden or Teaneck without talking about the hip hop gangsta rap culture and the drug thug life that centers around the motivation for 99.9 % of all the gun violence in NJ. If you are suckered into joining a false debate then ask her about the NJ Graves Act which is designed to do only one thing and that is to make criminals out of Law abiding citizens. Then please ask everyone attending to raise their hands if they went through all the legal hoops to apply for and obtain a NJ FID Card. After that please turn to the rest and ask how they can speak on a subject that they are unqualified to discuss.
Bob Lintner February 26, 2013 at 06:43 PM
Guns don't commit violence, criminals do. Nothing in the proposed bills ramrodded through the liberal controlled assembly would prosecute criminals or fix our broken mental health care system! These bills are NOT COMMON SENSE or REASONABLE! They are a blatant attempt to register and confiscate the firearms of honest citizens! Nothing but warm and fuzzy feel good bills that accomplish nothing.
David Sudranski February 27, 2013 at 02:33 AM
How many die from drug overdose??????? The Federal government went to war on that stuff in the Nixon era. HOWS THAT WORKING OUT??? WAS IT EFFECTIVE??? The Federal government is not the answer to the problems of life, YOU are the answer. If we raise our kids up properly to respect and cherish life they wont commit suicide and they wont kill others. WAKE UP!!!!
David Sudranski February 27, 2013 at 02:36 AM
Keith, your just being racist now! Voting never killed anyone! Why should you need ID for that sort of thing?????
David Sudranski February 27, 2013 at 02:45 AM
Stray Bullets???? you've got to be kidding Art! What law will stop a stray bullet. How many reports have you gotten that a law abiding gun owner fired his gun randomly in the air and some innocent kid got hit by the stray bullet. Its more like there was a drive by shooting between rival gangs who by the way never bothered to obey a law in their most likely short lives and an innocent bystander was shot and killed by stray bullets. Stop the nonsense force our government to go after the criminals not the guns that they use. As long as the killers are out there nothing will stop the killing and MOST DEFINITELY NOT ANOTHER LAW!!!!!!


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