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Judge Blocks Public Vote on County Police Merger

Ruling allows freeholders to vote on disbanding the Bergen County Police Department.

A judge has blocked a non-binding referendum asking if the Bergen County police should be merged into the sheriff’s office, but allowed the freeholder board to move ahead with an ordinance to disband the county police, northjersey.com reported.

Superior Court Judge Menelaos Toskos ruled Friday that the court could not move on an issue before it becomes an ordinance, the report said.

While the merger question won’t appear on the ballot, the freeholders could vote at their Sept. 12 meeting to disband the county police department. County Executive Kathleen Donovan, a supporter of the county police, is all but certain to veto the move.

The to weigh in on the proposed merger and passed an ordinance on first reading to dissolve the 89-member department. of the board’s power and the referendum was improper because it was not passed at a regular public meeting.

 

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GNOBIE01 September 08, 2012 at 06:40 PM
GREAT IDEA...LETS USE YOUR HOUSE AS A HALFWAY HOUSE FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE....STICK TO THE SUBJECT....COUNTY POLICE MERGER..NOT THE JAIL!!
Cutter07410 September 08, 2012 at 07:53 PM
Wow..sounds like someone didn't get their way with the police, well, except in Teaneck apparently...
Cutter07410 September 08, 2012 at 08:06 PM
So, a police officer, or group of officers, didn't do what you thought should be done? Guess that means all police departments should be reduced and their pay cut. So, Fair Lawn has about 55 cops, you're the expert, how many should we reduce to? I'm sure you have experience in police staffing needs and crime in Fair Lawn right? Oh, wait, I bet you're one of those "there's no crime in Fair Lawn..nothing happens here" people lol. Ever think that maybe the police do a good job keeping crime away from most people so they can have the luxury of thinking that way?..nah, you're right, they're ALL useless..silly me.
Cutter07410 September 08, 2012 at 08:11 PM
"Anonyamous"...spell check and grammar check are wonderful things, you should look into them sometime..
Legal Notice September 08, 2012 at 08:31 PM
Can any one tell us why we vote for FREEHOLDERS what's the point ? When the will and wishes of the people are trampled on my Queen Donovan and her King Campaign manager who can buy injustice quicker than the poor people in NJ can buy a Big Mack.
GNOBIE01 September 08, 2012 at 10:16 PM
“WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT THE SELF APPOINTED CAPS POLICE...NEVER ONE TO MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS..THEY THOUGHTLESSLY AND USELESSLY WORRY ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE USING CAPS...MINDLESSLY INTERJECTING WORTHLESS COMMENTS ABOUT WRITING IN CAPS AND IGNORING THE SUBJECT AT HAND...NOT THAT ANYONE EVER LISTENS TO THEIR POSTS.....LETS HAVE A GREAT ROUSING BRONX CHEER FOR THESE FOOLS!!!..........BRAAAAAAK!!!”
Tommy P September 08, 2012 at 10:34 PM
Great point! Let's eliminate the "free"holders and all of county government.
Gabriel Francis September 09, 2012 at 12:10 AM
Now Donovan needs to move the function of corrections into the dept. of public safety and saudino needs to privatize his paper boys. The rest of the SOs and 15% hacks can sit in the courthouse and wave their metal detectors. Then we move towards one countywide police dept. THE BCSD NEEDS TO STAY IN THE JAILS AND COURTS GNUBIE!! THEY ARE NOT COPS!!
GNOBIE01 September 09, 2012 at 12:49 AM
IT IS BETTER TO KEEP QUIET AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO THINK YOU ARE AN IDIOT...THAN TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT GABBY
Gabriel Francis September 09, 2012 at 02:22 AM
Sheriffs officers are not cops !!! They may think they are,but they are never --never on patrol--why ? because that is not their job--just courts and the jail is the only place they belong !!! so girls-get over it !!! they should merge the sheriffs office with the TSB but that would be an insult to the TSB...............
Gabriel Francis September 09, 2012 at 02:28 AM
Hey GNOBIEO1--get a real job--TSB is looking for a few people !! but if you work for Saudino your out of luck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they wont even take you..............
RdgwdGRock September 09, 2012 at 03:34 AM
don't bogart that joint, pass it over to me
John Santaella September 09, 2012 at 04:46 AM
We do not live in a democracy. We have a representative form of government. We elect public officials to make these decisions.
maryanne September 09, 2012 at 11:25 AM
@GNOBI01 There are many factors involved in this issue. I note that the way you express yourself to others on this site is very disrespectful.
GNOBIE01 September 09, 2012 at 11:39 AM
I MAY HAVE BEEN DISRESPECTFUL TO YOU OUT OF LINE...HOWEVER CHANGING THE SUBJECT TO THE INMATE POPULATION NUMBERS IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE....HOWEVER...WHEN I AM ATTACKED...I WILL BE AS DISRESPECTFUL AS I WISH...BUT PERHAPS BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO ME IS OK?......HEY GABBY...GET A LIFE STUPID!!
GNOBIE01 September 09, 2012 at 11:41 AM
HEY GABBY...JUST THINK OF HOW FAR YOU MIGHT HAVE GONE HAD YOU NOT BEEN DEPRIVED OF OXYGEN AT BIRTH FOR SO LONG!!!....PITY...THEY SHOULD HAVE ALLOED THE ASPHYXIATION TO FINISH THE JOB INSTEAD OF LEAVING YOU LIKE THIS
GNOBIE01 September 09, 2012 at 12:02 PM
SHERIFF OFFICERS RECIEVE THE EXACT SAME TRAINING AS POLICE OFFICERS..THEY POSSESS THE POLICE TRAINING COMMISSION CERTIFICATE ...THEY ARE INDEED POLICE...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!...
Gabriel Francis September 09, 2012 at 01:16 PM
Sheriffs are not cops............they serve papers (civil) TSB could do it !! and they are better trained.............
Gabriel Francis September 09, 2012 at 01:27 PM
A sheriffs officer cant become a cop because they wont merge the BCPD with them.......so he out there moaning about everything except the fact that they are not cops get over it !!! talk all you want about the system but you can't change the FACT YOU are not real COPS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GNOBIE01 want to be a cop---take a test !!!!! for a real police officer stop your crying .........
Michael Barry September 09, 2012 at 02:00 PM
To Ms. Francis: With all due respect, you are factually incorrect about Sheriff's Officers not being able to "become cops," as you put it; they are cops. I was in the Bergen County Police Academy with many Sheriff's Officers and they participated in exactly the same training classes that I did. They hold the same Police Training Commission Certificate that I have and they engage in the same patrol function that I do. They carry guns, on and off duty, as do I and they strive toward professionalism in a myriad of diversified duties. In every sense of the word they are police officers and some have given their lives in the line of duty. It's inappropriate to besmirch the memory of those like Sheriff's Officer Joe Rybka, who made the supreme sacrifice, by saying that Sheriffs Officers are not cops. That's simply incorrect, wrong headed, purposely hateful and inappropriate. Bergen County Sheriff's Officers are police officers and very professional police officers, at that. It's really no more complicated than that and I'm proud to serve along side them and to consider many Sheriff's Officers to be my closest friends. You may not be a fan of the Sheriff's Department, that is your privilege, but the hate filled rhetoric is beneath the dignity of everyone reading this and hurtful to the survivors. Let's try to keep them in mind when we respond. Respectfully, Sergeant Michael Barry # 195 - Port Authority of NY & NJ Police Department (PATH Command)
Cutter07410 September 09, 2012 at 07:43 PM
Well I think we can all agree that we don't also need a county CAPS police...unnecessary duplication of effort. I am more than capable of handling the CAPS duties!
GNOBIE01 September 09, 2012 at 09:20 PM
YOU ARE A TOTAL FOOL...GUESS TELLING YOU THE TRUTH DON'T HELP BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND...WONT WASTE MY TIME WITH THIS IDIOT ANYMORE...SHERIFF DEPARTMENT OFFICERS ARE COPS ACCORDING TO TITLE 2C...YOU CANNOT CHANGE FACTS STUPID...NOR WILL YOUR LYING STOP OR INTERFERE WITH THE MERGER... THEY ARE GOING TO ABSORB THE COUNTY POLICE WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NO...
GNOBIE01 September 09, 2012 at 09:27 PM
SGT. BARRY...YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME WITH THAT ONE...DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH....WOULDN'T KNOW THE TRUTH IF IT HIT HER OVER THE HEAD...LITTLE LIKE A LEMMING...SHE BELIEVS THIS WAY BECAUSE EVRY OTHER FOOL ALSO DOES...SHE HAS NO MIND OF HER OWN...ONLY WHAT SHE IS TOLD
Johnsmith September 10, 2012 at 08:32 PM
Test
Johnsmith September 10, 2012 at 08:45 PM
In response to maryanne, who stated the Bergen jail is full of the elderly and "non violent" offenders, you seriously need a reality check. The jail houses roughly 900 inmates on a daily basis, whose charges range from domestic violence to murder, that's right, MURDER. So much for your " elderly and non violent" theory. I encourage you to do some research. You can start with the hostage incident that took place in the 80's, when two corrections officered were taken hostage and held for 24 hrs by inmates. From there research the late 90's when an officer I worked with was savagely beaten within inches of his life during a botched escape. That beating ended his career. Or research where Richard Kuklinshi, the "iceman" was housed. That's right, the Bergen County jail. Where do you think each and every killer, rapist, and thug who ends up in state prison starts out?? That's right, the county jail of the county they were arrested in. And there they stay, sometimes for a year or more until the trial and sentencing is done. Corrections officers, unarmed and outnumbered 60 to 1, have the hardest Job in law enforcement, bar none. I know because I was one first before I became a street cop. This responses has nothing to do with the merger question but I almost fell off my chair when I read that highly uneducated comment. Next time do your homework. Non violent and elderly???? Maybe you should do comedy.
Gabriel Francis September 11, 2012 at 03:41 AM
Sgt Barry - basic academy training and a certificate do not make sheriff officers cops. they guard the courthouse and serve process. is that what a cop does at the port authority or in a municipality or in the state police? NO they do not. they do not perform the same patrol function. get rid of them now. save the taxpayers money now.
Johnsmith September 11, 2012 at 06:58 PM
Ok for the record let's clarify some things for those who are confused, of which there appears to be many. Sheriffs officers are cops. They receive the exact same 19 weeks training, attend the exact same police academy class, and are awarded the exact same police training certificate as all municipal and county police officers. The only difference is their job title and function, currently. They handle court security, serve process, handle evictions, as well as missing persons and crime scene forensics. They may also conduct traffic enforcement and issues summonses or make arrests when needed. This all amounts to being qualified as "cops" in my book, although thy do not currently patrol towns. I think many people are confusing sheriffs officers with the other job title in that department, corrections officers, who while also able to make arrests and enforce the law, receive different training geared towards corrections and do not handle any traffic enforcement at all. Both titles fall under the umbrella of the sheriff.
hsr October 04, 2012 at 01:55 PM
Everyone has a right to their opinion and has a right to express it without being attacked by another. We should be allowed to vote on it. Other counties in the state have done away with them. Let the people decide.
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